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Unaware of privilege - end friendship?

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Selman · 09/06/2024 04:29

I have one friend who is ridiculously well off, at least to me!
His parents owned a company they sold in the mid 2000s, no idea how much for but a good amount!
He has a house worth I'd say around 5 mil in London, 3 other properties he rents out, 2 holiday homes which sit effectively empty all year (all purchased with his parents money) and must take home around 200k a year. He has one child who he sends to a very expensive prep school, has a nanny for and spends thousands on her hobbies.
Tonight we were talking about politics etc. when a friend mentioned that he is extremely privileged. He became very defensive and disagreed as he works like everyone else and his daughter will have to as well (she will be gifted a 3 bedroom flat worth over 1mil and a trust fund).
He made a big deal about his parents not being very smart with the proceeds of the sale of their company in his opinion as "other than rental income" they don't have any real investments. He kept going on about how he HAS to work. When it was pointed out if he sold his house and moved into a perfectly lovely 1mil house he wouldn't have to work he got more defensive.
Now generally I don't care how well off or not someone is, I have friends from every background and as long as they are a decent person I couldn't care less about income.
Now I'm thinking - he is a twat! I don't care about how much he has as long as he knows he's privileged and I genuinely think he views him self as an average joe putting in the graft to get by when the reality is he's ridiculously well off and must own nearly 10mil in property!!
AIBU to end a friendship over this and tell him exactly why?!

OP posts:
Aladdinzane · 12/06/2024 00:48

If you want to look it up its called "self attribution bias".

PBJsandwich123 · 12/06/2024 18:24

How much privilege people have and how much gratitude they have for said privileges is out of your control, so it's not worth getting hung up on. You're much better looking after your own financial goals/gratitude levels. I feel wealthy partly because I've created a life with low outgoings. Many of my richer friends feel less wealthy as they live in London where living costs are high and would probably have to move out straight away if they lost their job whereas where I am is so cheap I would probably have some time to sort myself out into a new job without falling to much into debt/getting evicted etc. although on paper I'm less well off, I'm actually under a lot less financial pressure and I'm more time rich too so can grow/cook food. I'll always give a listening ear if someone is venting about financial pressures whatever their situation - I have a friend who is rich and low outgoings - the problem is their spending habits, but as they're in a bit of a downward spiral they are probably more in need of kindness than advice at the mo, so I'll maybe broach it when they are feeling better.

Aladdinzane · 12/06/2024 18:50

Maybe much of what people have or don't recognise that they have is that they are always comparing up, rather than down.

Animatic · 12/06/2024 19:46

MsMarch · 12/06/2024 00:10

Well no eggshells are necessary @Animatic. Because as a rule, we all choose friends who have similar views or who can at least respect our own. So the chances are that a rich, white person with lots of privilege who also thinks that they got where they are entirely on talent and hard work and who gets defensive if asked about their privilege is less likely to be my friend in the first place. Just like racist people wouldn't need to tip toe around me because we wouldn't be friends from the start.

Other people don't see this sort of thing as important so they'll find friends who also don't care and who care about the same things they do. Good. Everyone should have friends.

See, as a white European woman with a pretty descent career I would absolutely not tolerate the concept of privelege thrown into my face by a "friend". Whether I am aware of it or not is in fact secondary; one ought to have a sense of tact and be polite.

MsMarch · 12/06/2024 19:50

Animatic · 12/06/2024 19:46

See, as a white European woman with a pretty descent career I would absolutely not tolerate the concept of privelege thrown into my face by a "friend". Whether I am aware of it or not is in fact secondary; one ought to have a sense of tact and be polite.

OK, so we winy be friends in real life. We have different viewpoints. 🤷‍♀️

GingerScallop · 12/06/2024 21:46

Pity OP hasn't come back to clarify the discussion and whether some of out responses are based on our own misconceptions on how it all went down.

Opinionwontchangeluv · 13/06/2024 02:07

Everyone wants to be a victim and act like they come from struggle because it's cool
If I came from money I would be happy and unapologetic but of course hell others when I could

Opinionwontchangeluv · 13/06/2024 02:08

Help others

Aladdinzane · 13/06/2024 08:19

@Opinionwontchangeluv

"Everyone wants to be a victim and act like they come from struggle because it's cool"

Everyone wants to act like their achievements are entirely their own because they feel like acknowledging that they have had help/privilege diminishes their achievements.

The number of people who even in the media are described as "self made" who are anything but is really interesting.

I did spit my tea out when someone called Kylie Jenner a self made billionaire though.

BluesBird19764 · 15/06/2024 19:50

is he a “twat” or are you just jealous?

RemarkablyUnremarkable · 16/06/2024 09:50

"Now generally I don't care how well off or not someone is"

Apparently they do.

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