AGAIN! Something must be done

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Yes I know, another XL bulky thread. But seriously, this breed is like a mine field, randomly killing owners all over. You never know when/where it will happen next.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

Is it time to do something more serious? The legislation brought in doesn't seem to have stopped deaths, although at least it does appear to be the owners (who are stupid enough to keep them) who are dying now instead of innocent members of the public.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed/

I think it would help if they widely published why the breed is so dangerous. People blame irresponsible owners but thanks to this thread I have read about Killer Kombo and he was a product of brother and sister mating! Inbreeding will always cause issues. They need to spell out that the blood line is so poor that it leads to them just snapping. I wasn't sure euthanasia was the option and thought dog licencing would be better but after reading about the gene pool I can see how it's the only option. It's awful what people do to dogs in the name of breeding and organisations that praise deformities such a flat noses, docked body parts and over the top stockiness should be shut down. Breeding should be licenced only to stop this cruelty

This is what I mean about it not being just shit owners or terribly bred dangerous dogs. People are breeding these monsters but then people are buying them for £££ so people breed them and people buy them and on and on.

Anyone who knows anything about dogs would run a mile from the shitty "breeders" these dogs are coming from.

Humans have fucked these dogs up to the point that yep, they're dangerous. There's no safe way to own one IMO. But it's not the dogs' fault, they're victims too.

I do think they all need euthanising tbh at this point. But it won't stop the actual fundamental problem. It'll be another breed next, and then another.

People have got this ridiculous idea from other people who have referred to Staffordshire bull terriers as nanny dogs.

I have a Staffordshire x Boston and someone said to me 'aw I love staffies they are nanny dogs' and proceeded to tell me the most elaborate story of their history....which was complete bollox. They were bred to fight other dogs. The men used to hide their injured dogs in the pram. These dogs were never bred to guard babies. On the plus side Staffordshire bull terriers were bred in such a way that all dogs showing any aggression to humans were culled. They culled any dog that they couldn't safely part in a fight.

There is a lot of ignorance, and it's not just coming from idiot XL owners.

To those who say all bull breeds should be banned, I ask does this include such breeds as Boston terriers? boxers? because anyone suggesting a Boston (also originally bred for dog fighting) is a menace is a bit dim.

ANY dog is capable of this type of thing and statistically there are many other breeds which are far more aggressive.

Pretending it's just XL's because they're the "hot" breed to be reported on in the news, and they "look" aggressive (whatever that means) is incredibly naïve.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-attack-humans-see-jack-russell-terriers-terrorising-liverpool-a6797711.html

Ok but what's the breed most likely to kill humans?

Mosquitoes bite and kill more humans than sharks (by many many many magnitudes) every year, but I'd still rather take my chances head to head with a mosquito.

Jack Russells can be arsey little twats but I could launch one into next week if it went for me. Not so an XL bully...

Give over

Would you rather fight off a jack Russel or an xl bully

Yes any dog can be unpredictable and attack but you are far less likely to lose your life being attacked by a chihuahua. I don’t know why anyone would want these dogs in their home. I don’t care how “well” they are trained.

No, but guns aren’t deadly until someone picks one up and shoots it. We still banned them.

I agree.

Attention is turning to the cane corso now. That will be the next status dog of choice for these idiot owners.

All over FB video feeds of Cane corso looking scary with voice overs telling you 'facts' including how a cane corso has a great bite force. Cane corso dogs wearing thick gold chains and bearing their teeth, followed by a cute shot of it snuggled up to the owners child. The dodgy breeders who have been breeding XLs have been crossing XLs with Cane Corso for some time, so this breed will also have the dodgy bloodline.

Oh FFS, that post is not even worthy of a response. 🙄

Exactly this. 'well any dog can attack' is the most breathtakingly ignorant, ill-informed, and ludicrous comment anyone can make. When a poodle or chinuahua attacks you end up with a few stitches. When a fucking XL Bully attacks, your family is arranging your funeral. What a STUPID comment to say 'errr well all dogs attack.' I can't even.

If I see one of these types of breeds with mutilated ears or tail I judge the Fuck out of the owner, instantly & without a second thought. Nice soft ears & full tail = no judgement

Appearances can be deceptive. And anyway. How do you know it wasn’t a rescue dog when you see a dog like this for example .

Euthanise them all.

Always the same calibre of people who own these devil dogs. Status symbol for the chavtastics. Cull every single last one of them.

Fucking fools.

But yes it will just be breed after breed after breed.

I guess the answer has to lie in restricting breeding, but then that's a bummer for people like us who got our amazing dog from what would be condemned by MN as 'backyard breeders' but in reality were absolutely incredible dog owners and dedicated to raising the most healthy well adjusted litter they possibly could. And yes, litter singular. They had no plans to breed the mum again, and they didn't profit from it either. So I know it's not black and white, but we do need to accept that grossly irresponsible breeding is at the heart of this issue. Plus people just don't know enough about dogs, about their body language and signs of being uncomfortable and need for activity and space etc etc. So they might not mean to be shit owners, but they are 😬

The dodgy breeders who have been breeding XLs have been crossing XLs with Cane Corso for some time, so this breed will also have the dodgy bloodline.

What could go wrong

Yes. And ban the owners from ever owning a dog again. ANY dog. And if they are caught with a dog, it's taken off them, and the owner gets 5 years in prison.

So we should expect the attacks to decrease by about 10 per cent a year for about 10 years ?

I've seen her TikTok page and it doesn't seem that she had the fawn coloured XL with cropped ears, that she was dancing with, for very long.

Back in 2022-2023 the only dog videos she posted showed another two white and brown ones but no sign of the fawn one.

I can’t bear the “any dog can kill” crap. Yes, they can but they don’t…….
I’d rather take my chances with a chihuahua than an XL bully. Could the chihuahua bite me so I need stitches and I might have a permanent scar? Yep but an XL bully could rip me (and my children) apart so I’d die a horrible, terrifying and painful death.

But they did! And people loved it! Please see here for the story of Christian: The lion who lived on the King's Road in the late sixties https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14240681

Also Harrods sold other things as pets including alligators and elephants... https://www.mylondon.news/news/nostalgia/harrods-pet-shop-elephant-lions-19948359

Darwinism in action. If you’re stupid enough to own one of these dogs and arrogant enough to think it won’t happen to you, natural selection will do its thing.

Oh he's adorable

Animals don't have moral responsibility. When we say they are 'bad', we mean their instinct is to do destructive things, not that they are knowingly causing harm.