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Eww just found out my fiance voted UKIP before

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NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 19:29

Just that really. And the fact that he likes Nigel Farage and agrees with him. I feel very disturbed.

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Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2024 23:41

MissingMoominMamma · 06/06/2024 23:17

A man who thought Farage was anything but a fucking, lying, self serving, odious shithole, who is partly responsible for the reason our kids don’t have freedom of movement throughout Europe, whilst his still do…

No.

No.

NO.

Why’s he responsible for Brexit? He wasn’t in power when the referendum happened. The vote was given to people by Cameron and the Tories.

RoobarbAndMustard · 07/06/2024 00:01

@NotGotAClue1
Well there's only one thing for it....LTB

MissingMoominMamma · 07/06/2024 00:13

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2024 23:41

Why’s he responsible for Brexit? He wasn’t in power when the referendum happened. The vote was given to people by Cameron and the Tories.

Are you kidding? Brexit was his baby- he pitched it to the country because he was our MEP. Cameron ran with it because he thought it would ruffle feathers, but nobody thought it would actually happen.

Livelovebehappy · 07/06/2024 00:22

MissingMoominMamma · 07/06/2024 00:13

Are you kidding? Brexit was his baby- he pitched it to the country because he was our MEP. Cameron ran with it because he thought it would ruffle feathers, but nobody thought it would actually happen.

That’s just the same as any other high profile individual backing it. He didn’t make Brexit happen. Just backed it and agreed with it. Ultimately Cameron gave the vote to the public, and that’s why Brexit happened.

Proudofitbabe · 07/06/2024 00:27

Well Farage got to the final on I'm a Celeb so more people quite like him than they will ever admit publicly - your fiancé isn't a freak of nature.

But for me it's this: if you've been together long enough to get engaged and have a kid WITHOUT this cropping up before then why does it suddenly matter now?? He can't be a political extremist or you'd already know his views. It sounds like he must be politically laid back in daily life or this would ALREADY be impacting your relationship / parenting etc. Surely he's entitled to his view as long as you're both in harmony otherwise.

I think politics have to align if it MATTERS a lot to the couple. If you've been rubbing along nicely up to now and were none the wiser before then who cares?

SammyScrounge · 07/06/2024 00:44

Cellotapedispenser · 06/06/2024 19:45

This is an interesting one. My dh (of 20 years) was Lib dem leaning when we met to my centre left. Many debates! He became much more blue as he aged. I hover between left and centre (currently politically homeless for various reasons). Dh has made a few comments about Farage having a good point on a few things and I've reacted quite aggressively. To my mind he's an evil, shit stirring divisive racist. But my dh is mild mannered and sees all sides. If he actually voted for him I think I'd reconsider the relationship.

More than a.bit controlling, aren't you? Vote the way.I do or else? Do many people meet your criterion for friendship or romance?
What makes you think that you are right in whatever you believe and that everyone else is wrong?

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SammyScrounge · 07/06/2024 00:50

Livelovebehappy · 06/06/2024 23:14

Wth is wrong with being Pro The UK and flag waving? So you’re anti UK?

That's.what I took her to mean also. Anti UK. Imagine being against your own country!!

ReadingSoManyThreads · 07/06/2024 01:22

YABU

You need to get a grip, you have a two year old with this man.

I cannot believe you are thinking about ending a relationship with the father of your child over a vote he cast years ago. Wise up. You just come across as a bigot.

Pixiesgirl · 07/06/2024 01:34

I agree with the pp. If he was racist or xenophobic or generally awful, I'm pretty sure you would know by now.

RubyWinehouse · 07/06/2024 01:35

Why? I like Nigel Farage and will be voting for him. What is wrong about being patriotic and wanting to follow British values?

SquashPenguin · 07/06/2024 01:39

You think that’s bad, I’ve got a relative who’s actually close friends with him 🤦🏻‍♀️

Mrsdyna · 07/06/2024 06:26

Maybe he thinks the way you vote is "Ewww" but he looks past it for you.

Mrsdyna · 07/06/2024 06:29

ReadingSoManyThreads · 07/06/2024 01:22

YABU

You need to get a grip, you have a two year old with this man.

I cannot believe you are thinking about ending a relationship with the father of your child over a vote he cast years ago. Wise up. You just come across as a bigot.

Wow, they have a child? I hope this thread is fake.

"Mummy, Daddy, why did you split up? Was it cheating? Domestic abuse?"

"No, it was the crime of voting that made you have to spend holidays and weekends elsewhere."

What a pathetic, privileged outlook. The OP doesn't understand how lucky she is.

Shortfatsuit · 07/06/2024 06:38

Well, it would be a deal breaker for me, but then again, voting Tory would have been a deal breaker as well so I wouldn't ever have got this far down the road with him personally.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their views in a democracy, but I'm also entitled to choose who I want as my life partner. And for me, it is important that our values align. Anyone who votes for the Tories/UKIP/Reform etc does not have values that would ever be compatible with mine, so it would be a non-starter.

Bringbackthebeaver · 07/06/2024 06:41

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 21:39

Some interesting comments. I’m still no clearer what to think or do.

I think it would be helpful if you expanded on his views and what he said when you asked him why he likes Farage/ why he voted UKIP?

What did you think of his answers to those questions? Did it reassure you at all?

tuvamoodyson · 07/06/2024 06:43

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 20:01

I have spoken to him about it. I asked why he likes Nigel Farage. Why he voted UKIP etc. I’ve come to mumsnet to get other peoples opinions because I can gain no more from talking to him. I’m genuinely curious as to what others think and whether I’m making an issue out of something that doesn’t need to be.

Well, you picked him….the only opinion that counts is yours.

Shortfatsuit · 07/06/2024 06:43

I guess the question is, OP, if you were comfortable with knowing that he voted Tory...bearing in mind what the current Tory party is... what is it about Nigel Farage/UKIP in particular that you find unpalatable?

CaptainHaddocksPychotherapist · 07/06/2024 06:46

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 20:10

No, I knew he was tory but didn’t realise quite how far over he is. He treats me nicely in our relationship but his views kind of make me not like him as a person. We have a 2 year old. If we didn’t, I think I would have ended things by now.

So you are happy for your child to be parented by a person with such views?

NotGotAClue1 · 07/06/2024 06:47

Curlewwoohoo · 06/06/2024 22:13

I think it sounds like this is part of a bigger picture for you. Do you think it might be the straw that broke the camels back? I would find it hard to be with someone who held very different values to mine. In fact common values and our kids are the reasons we're still together despite many other issues.

Yes I think so. There are several other issues. He’s 14 years older than me, I think this is where a lot of our differences stem from as we’re from different generations. He does generally treat me nicely but there are times he can overreact to things and be really verbally aggressive out of nowhere. He has ptsd which he says causes this, but still this can be a lot. I would say he’s changed from when we first got together. He has become angrier, grumpier, we argue and obviously now I know this. We have nearly broke up a few times but it’s hard with our son.

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Fucking hell... go outside and touch some grass...

MrsDTucker · 07/06/2024 07:30

And?

Shortfatsuit · 07/06/2024 07:32

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Are you on something?

If not, do you need to be on something?

blue345 · 07/06/2024 07:36

Doesn’t it terrify anyone that some people (who usually think of themselves as liberal and open minded and inclusive) want a society akin to North Korea, where only approved opinions are accepted and everyone else should be denied a voice and have ridicule and scorn poured on them?

Indeed, you've pretty much summed up all MN political threads. There really isn't a right or wrong and irrespective of what I vote, I'd like to think I'm a thoughtful and respectful person in my everyday life.

There's a certain irony and hypocrisy in people branding Farage or the Conservatives as intolerant while being extremely intolerant (and self righteous) themselves about anyone that doesn't vote Labour.

Maddy70 · 07/06/2024 07:43

LTB. And that's the first time i have ever said that on mumsnet.

I couldn't be with anyone who held such racist and abhorrent views