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Eww just found out my fiance voted UKIP before

298 replies

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 19:29

Just that really. And the fact that he likes Nigel Farage and agrees with him. I feel very disturbed.

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HappiestSleeping · 06/06/2024 20:11

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/06/2024 20:05

I'd divorce them
Voting Labour is IMO lacking aspirations just as Labour wants you to be, ie subservient!!

On the other thread, weren't you considering voting Labour though, now you are disenfranchised with the Conservatives?

VickyEadieofThigh · 06/06/2024 20:12

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 19:29

Just that really. And the fact that he likes Nigel Farage and agrees with him. I feel very disturbed.

I'm astonished that this never came up before you got engaged - or was this a whirlwind romance?

keffie12 · 06/06/2024 20:12

Dealbreaker for me! However, you know him, and it doesn't mean it won't work.

I think you need to search yourself on the reasons he would vote for his policies and why he likes him.

Then, work out if you can live with that or not.

The people I know of who would vote that way aren't my type of people, so...

TheSandHurtsMyFeelings · 06/06/2024 20:12

I'd want to know a man's political leanings before I had a child with him, tbh.

Trunkybum · 06/06/2024 20:13

How do you get to the stage of being someone’s finance without knowing their political views

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 06/06/2024 20:14

Swingingvvoter · 06/06/2024 20:10

@qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty
. Values are not that Clear cut through a political lens.

Eg let's say I'm left and I feel that gives me a moral badge of honour and I want immigration.
Immigration with little stops on it because I think it's mean and people risk their lives getting here.

But then Jeremy corybn says, it's mean, people risk their lives getting here we need to allow xyz BUT he also says, the "workers" the plumbers and trades who have a family here in UK and have bills to pay are suddenly undercut by dirt cheap eu labour and that's not fair. So I support brexit because I don't believe in under cutting the working mans wage...

Ergo:

Farage and lovely lefty morally superior corybn suddenly don't look so different.

You're confusing policies and values. I'm talking about values - Corbyn and Farage share almost no values.

They would not have a happy marriage!

Lexit and Brexit might result in two leave votes, but the underlying values are miles apart.

Doggymummar · 06/06/2024 20:14

I haven't spoken to my parents since Brexit because they voted leave and love Farage so I understand where you are coming from. I would have to leave child or not. He had presumably deceived you for a number of years, or have you never discussed it?

Justcallmebebes · 06/06/2024 20:15

PinkiOcelot · 06/06/2024 19:44

He might not be happy with you vote for.

This. Pathetic. It's not like he's a fully paid up member of the Nazi party

2Rebecca · 06/06/2024 20:15

I'm now on my 3rd political party. People change, views change. Marrying someone who supports 1 party means nothing in the long run. Half the country voted for Brexit. I didn't but have relatives who did. At least he's interested in politics and votes

AccountCreateUsername · 06/06/2024 20:15

DdraigGoch · 06/06/2024 19:41

I would find out more about his views in detail. The whole "this party good, that party bad" is far too simplistic. More than a quarter of the electorate voted for them in 2014, that's a lot of people to write off.

Yes in normal circumstances but Nigel Farage is an almighty cunt and admiring him is a red flag and potentially really embarrassing depending on who you are and your family / friends are.

I couldn’t date anyone who voted UKIP even though I do realise not all UKIP voters are bigots.

StMarieforme · 06/06/2024 20:16

How did you get this far without knowing his political beliefs?

It would be a deal breaker for me. Farage is a toad.

Swingingvvoter · 06/06/2024 20:16

Are they qwerty?

How so 🤔

AmpleFatball · 06/06/2024 20:17

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 20:01

I have spoken to him about it. I asked why he likes Nigel Farage. Why he voted UKIP etc. I’ve come to mumsnet to get other peoples opinions because I can gain no more from talking to him. I’m genuinely curious as to what others think and whether I’m making an issue out of something that doesn’t need to be.

I think Reform voters are basically stupid Tories.

They don’t have any workable policies. They’ve even admitted that their “stop the boats” policies are unworkable nonsense.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-reform-uk-immigration-general-election-b2556227.html

When it comes to legal immigration, the problem is that we need high levels in order to sustain our pension system. We have an aging population and dwindling birth rate. Net zero immigration would lead to the prompt collapse of the state pension. The Tories know this and so, even though they make agreeable (to some) noises about cutting immigration, they never do it.

The only way we cease to become reliant on immigration is to boost our birth rate, which probably means re-imagining our economy in such a way that families can survive comfortably on one income - that feels miles away but, even if we solved the issue tomorrow, we’d still need a couple of decades of high immigration to bridge the gap until we have a large UK-born working age population again.

Nigel Farage appears to ditch key Reform UK immigration policy during live interview

The former UKIP leader ditched the party’s ‘secure detention for all asylum seekers’ plan and said he needed to ‘sort a few things out’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-reform-uk-immigration-general-election-b2556227.html

Justcallmebebes · 06/06/2024 20:17

Doggymummar · 06/06/2024 20:14

I haven't spoken to my parents since Brexit because they voted leave and love Farage so I understand where you are coming from. I would have to leave child or not. He had presumably deceived you for a number of years, or have you never discussed it?

This is insane. Are you seriously saying you haven't spoken to your parents for 5 years because they voted for a party whose politics you don't agree with? I don't believe you for a minute

CassandraProphesying · 06/06/2024 20:17

BeRealOrca · 06/06/2024 19:58

Quite. I'd never marry a bigot who voted tory.

I don't think many non bigots would marry bigots would they? Would you marry someone who voted Conservative but who wasn't a bigot though, is more of an informative question?

(Footnote:
Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group)

Allthislovelygreen · 06/06/2024 20:18

I voted ukip last time...maybe he'd be interested in me? 😘

Zanatdy · 06/06/2024 20:18

I’d never look at him the same, never

Doggymummar · 06/06/2024 20:20

Justcallmebebes · 06/06/2024 20:17

This is insane. Are you seriously saying you haven't spoken to your parents for 5 years because they voted for a party whose politics you don't agree with? I don't believe you for a minute

It's my mum mostly to be fair I spoke to my dad at Christmas, but yes I feel strongly about it. I also was very disappointed in a lot of my social circle, and we moved to a new town and started fresh,

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/06/2024 20:21

K0OLA1D · 06/06/2024 19:33

Yeah. It would be a no from me.

And from me.

stripycats · 06/06/2024 20:23

This is insane. Are you seriously saying you haven't spoken to your parents for 5 years because they voted for a party whose politics you don't agree with? I don't believe you for a minute

Leave wasn't a party though was it? It was a decision to leave the EU that had a massive and detrimental impact on all our lives, but some people's more than others. I had relatives who voted leave and I haven't cut ties but if I was someone whose business was wrecked by Brexit, or whose partner's right to remain here was affected, for example, I might well feel differently.

FOJN · 06/06/2024 20:24

stripycats · 06/06/2024 20:06

Sorry, but there is no good reason for liking Nigel Farage. None whatsoever.

I wasn't defending his politics.

2Rebecca · 06/06/2024 20:25

I can't imagine not talking to my dad or son because they voted for a party I disapproved of. I've always been political and to me thinking about issues is the important thing. The left has as many if not more intolerant would be dictators than the right. Many political issues aren't left v right anyway and working class areas are more likely to be Labour or Farage than more affluent areas that are Tory/ libdem/ green

StripedPiggy · 06/06/2024 20:26

UKIP were not the BNP or the National Front. 🙄

They were a mainstream political party which campaigned, successfully, for Britain to leave the EU. Their electoral success at the 2014 European elections forced David Cameron to put holding a EU referendum in the Tories’ 2015 election manifesto. And we know the rest.

That doesn’t make them, or the people who voted for them, extremists. And suggesting that it does is one of the many reasons why they won, and Remainers like me lost.

Elphame · 06/06/2024 20:26

sauvignonplonk1 · 06/06/2024 19:58

I'd feel disturbed if I discovered my partner had ever voted labour!

I would hope mine never has as I'd be disappointed in him but as I've never asked him who he voted for I really don't know!

BobbyBiscuits · 06/06/2024 20:26

Presumably you must have had a inclination he was like this? I wouldn't go out with someone who had those views. But it's up to you, could you overcome it, do you think he could change his mind, can he give a decent reason as to why he agrees with it? (Even if it's no excuse at least he can explain this reasoning?)
It would be a massive no from me but I don't think I'd ever get close to someone like that or even know them socially.