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To sleep with a 23 year old?

672 replies

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

OP posts:
IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/06/2024 07:09

AllyCart · 05/06/2024 19:02

Fuck, shag or have sex with.

How fucking twee is "sleep with" ? 🙄

Calm down, it's just words

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 07:11

LondonFox · 05/06/2024 20:29

For everyone "yucking it"
I am quite sure if it was 23y old girl and successful bloke of 42, everyone would tell her to lock and marry him faster.

Seriously? I would feel sick if my daughter told me this or had this attitude. Raise your standards.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/06/2024 07:12

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 05/06/2024 19:22

I am 41. When I was 39 I had sex with a guy that was 29 and he was so so so immature. The way he texted put me right off. I wouldn’t go lower than 35, he’ll be a crap shag, he’ll say ‘ye’ instead of yes and probably be into music you hate. What’s the point?

I know 35 year olds like you describe. Age doesn't dictate personality.

Magpie81 · 07/06/2024 07:19

Wow... some very ageist and bizarre comments and reactions here, many clearly not from members of the sisterhood and supporting each other! A pole to say am I being unreasonable?? Absolutely not. Two consenting adults can do what the fuck they want. Why even put it out there for a bunch of strangers to judge you. Many men date women over 20 years younger than them and no one bats an eye. The moment a woman does it she's desperate, or a cougar ... so sad to see these comments from other women

JumalanTerve · 07/06/2024 07:21

I'm sure there are some men who target older women for bragging purposes, but I've never met any myself. This is a generalisation, but women in their 40s have a lot going for them that is very attractive to men in their 20s - confidence, good conversation, less likely to play games and more likely to have addressed any personality/family of origin issues that affect relationships at a younger age. This is all attractive to men of all ages, but particularly in comparison to dating women in their early 20s

Mamai100 · 07/06/2024 07:24

Creepy.

Whatinthedoopla · 07/06/2024 07:29

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 06/06/2024 20:02

haha I also dated a 37-year old at 19.

I thought at the time that he was obviously inadequate in some way to be dating someone of my age, but I wasn’t in it for a relationship so wasn’t my concern. He was fit and charismatic and I fancied shagging him. I didn’t plan on marrying him.

No regrets!

You were lucky having no regrets! :)

I have them all, he didn't teach me anything haha

Fontofallknowledge23 · 07/06/2024 07:35

I think that’s totally fine. I was out a while ago and this 19 year old was bloody obsessed with me. I’m 46 but get told I look about mid 30s. I told him how old o was and he wasn’t bothered at all. I just could not comprehend it myself but he was a 19 ! Not attractive to me that age gap whatsoever but some 23 year olds can look quite mature. It’s definitely a thing for some guys and I say it’s ok if into 20s. Also it’s not like you want a relationship with him. The age gap would be crazy for that.

anyolddinosaur · 07/06/2024 07:50

Creepy, as it would be for a man having sex with a very much younger woman. If you have children old enough to realise they will think it icky. But you are both consenting adults so what you do is no one else's business. Not unreasonable to do it if you want, unreasonable to think it isnt creepy.

Chrispackhamspoodle · 07/06/2024 07:50

Why is this seen as fetishism?Can't he just fancy hot older women?As for the posters who say a 23 year old might be crap in bed that wasn't my experience at 23.Op go for it.

RubyWasp · 07/06/2024 07:51

You are both adults, im quite surprised at some of the responses. Enjoy yourselves both of you, life is for living. When your time comes say goodbye to this planet will you be looking back at all you missed out on or how much fun you had with people who WANT to boink with you? I’d take the latter. Have a great time and don’t let others psychological barriers prevent you. Say it louder for those at the back, YOU ARE BOTH CONSENTING ADULTS. Imagine being him, old enough to own and car, house, credit cards, but apparently too young to choose who he spends time with? Laughable. You go girl 👌👌

RubyWasp · 07/06/2024 07:55

S0livagant · 05/06/2024 18:49

Creepy. Way outside of the half plus seven rule.

the only rule is both ADULTS be consenting. He’s not a child.

RubyWasp · 07/06/2024 07:57

Magpie81 · 07/06/2024 07:19

Wow... some very ageist and bizarre comments and reactions here, many clearly not from members of the sisterhood and supporting each other! A pole to say am I being unreasonable?? Absolutely not. Two consenting adults can do what the fuck they want. Why even put it out there for a bunch of strangers to judge you. Many men date women over 20 years younger than them and no one bats an eye. The moment a woman does it she's desperate, or a cougar ... so sad to see these comments from other women

Thank you, a woman with some sense and intelligence. It’s lacking on this post.

HouseofHills · 07/06/2024 07:57

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 05/06/2024 19:14

Age gap relationships is my hill to die on. Hate them. Would be horrified if my young adult kids were in one. I cannot even imagine fancying someone so much younger. It’s legal but horrible in every way.

Why is it horrible? It’s creepy when people go out specifically to look for an age gap relationship. It’s creepy when men only date women younger than them because of what it reveals about how they perceive women and what they value in them (looking at you, Leo) and because there’s usually an uneven power dynamic. But why are age gap relationships horrible in and of themselves?

I fell for a 50 year old man I met when I was 32. We had loads in common, could talk for hours and he was incredibly intelligent, unassuming, kind, thoughtful, reflective. He was also handsome (not in a trying to look younger way though) and still had a thick head of hair! I never let him know how I felt because he was married and I had to physically distance myself from him. However, if he’d been single, I would have loved something to happen between us. I would have much preferred there not to be an age gap but I loved who he was as a person so I wouldn’t have let it stop me being with him.

Would you really die on a hill over that?

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 08:21

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 06/06/2024 07:30

Well, neither of us can prove that either way. In my opinion, there’s a lot of anger towards a woman who dares to step outside the ‘middle-aged woman’ box in terms of sexual behaviour, and I think that includes a sort of jealousy from those who’d like to do similar but feel judged/limited by societal pressure.

You said that was the ‘biggest bollocks’ though - what’s the other bollocks, if you don’t mind my asking?

I really don’t think it’s jealousy.

For me it stems from having young adult kids at university and viewing partners who are 20 years older as completely predatory and unsuitable. It actually makes me feel sick, the idea of older people pursuing them. Thankfully I know my 19y girl and 21y son find the idea of age gap relationships really strange so I hope they stay well away.

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 08:24

HouseofHills · 07/06/2024 07:57

Why is it horrible? It’s creepy when people go out specifically to look for an age gap relationship. It’s creepy when men only date women younger than them because of what it reveals about how they perceive women and what they value in them (looking at you, Leo) and because there’s usually an uneven power dynamic. But why are age gap relationships horrible in and of themselves?

I fell for a 50 year old man I met when I was 32. We had loads in common, could talk for hours and he was incredibly intelligent, unassuming, kind, thoughtful, reflective. He was also handsome (not in a trying to look younger way though) and still had a thick head of hair! I never let him know how I felt because he was married and I had to physically distance myself from him. However, if he’d been single, I would have loved something to happen between us. I would have much preferred there not to be an age gap but I loved who he was as a person so I wouldn’t have let it stop me being with him.

Would you really die on a hill over that?

Yes. Every time. It’s predatory.

And however many meaningful conversations you think you had, there is no way you had the same mental or emotional maturity. And if you did, then he was very immature, which is spectacularly unattractive. And this guy was clearly a married creep and trying to lure you in by showing you what he knew you wanted to see.

Though there are degrees. And a 32y old is different to a 23y old. Some life experience at least.

HRTQueen · 07/06/2024 08:25

No it’s not jealousy

I have on quite a few occasions had younger men hit on me (constantly when OLD) telling me they find older women attractive

I don’t want to be the older woman It’s an absolute turn off. Like I don’t want to be the curvy woman. I just like someone to be attracted to me not becuase I tick a box and they think it’s a compliment to me it’s not

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 08:27

RubyWasp · 07/06/2024 07:51

You are both adults, im quite surprised at some of the responses. Enjoy yourselves both of you, life is for living. When your time comes say goodbye to this planet will you be looking back at all you missed out on or how much fun you had with people who WANT to boink with you? I’d take the latter. Have a great time and don’t let others psychological barriers prevent you. Say it louder for those at the back, YOU ARE BOTH CONSENTING ADULTS. Imagine being him, old enough to own and car, house, credit cards, but apparently too young to choose who he spends time with? Laughable. You go girl 👌👌

The OP is literally asking for opinions on her age gap relationship.

And louder for those at the back. Everybody knows they are consenting adults and can do what the hell they want. But when the OP invites opinions, people are also free to give them!

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 08:28

HRTQueen · 07/06/2024 08:25

No it’s not jealousy

I have on quite a few occasions had younger men hit on me (constantly when OLD) telling me they find older women attractive

I don’t want to be the older woman It’s an absolute turn off. Like I don’t want to be the curvy woman. I just like someone to be attracted to me not becuase I tick a box and they think it’s a compliment to me it’s not

Yep. I am a confident and pretty attractive 54y old. I much prefer a compliment from someone my age than someone young enough to be my kid! I do not want to be anybody’s fetish, thanks.

HRTQueen · 07/06/2024 08:32

WeHaveLostSightBlah exactly

Like I found it gross being the hot sexy girl for men much older than me when I was young 🤢 why the fuck did these men think I wanted to hear that

it’s just an absolute turn off and patronising

SamW98 · 07/06/2024 08:44

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 08:28

Yep. I am a confident and pretty attractive 54y old. I much prefer a compliment from someone my age than someone young enough to be my kid! I do not want to be anybody’s fetish, thanks.

💯- confident attractive 55 year old here and despite numerous offers from men young enough to be my son, I’m not interested in being a box ticked thanks very much.

Never been into older men either. Age gaps not my thing

Richdebtomdom · 07/06/2024 09:03

I personally wouldn't...I can't think about having sex with someone younger than my kids...

LoveLifeBeHappy · 07/06/2024 09:08

Too many haters on here... don't listen! Go and enjoy!

OldScribbler · 07/06/2024 09:19

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/06/2024 05:46

How old are you both now ? It's all good fun when you are 20&40 or 30 &50. 45 & 65, not so much.

I'm not sure if this question was for me. I'm now 87. She's gone to work. I have a business with clients in several countries.

HouseofHills · 07/06/2024 09:33

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 07/06/2024 08:24

Yes. Every time. It’s predatory.

And however many meaningful conversations you think you had, there is no way you had the same mental or emotional maturity. And if you did, then he was very immature, which is spectacularly unattractive. And this guy was clearly a married creep and trying to lure you in by showing you what he knew you wanted to see.

Though there are degrees. And a 32y old is different to a 23y old. Some life experience at least.

I find that such an odd take. If he was trying to lure me I’m pretty sure he would have made a move. We had things in common including our family history, politics and art and similar world views which meant we had a lot to talk about. I don’t doubt that he was more mentally and emotionally mature - that doesn’t mean we didn’t connect. There are plenty of people the same age with different levels of mental and emotional maturity.