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Is this Financial Abuse or AIBU?

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Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 01:49

I have been in a long-distance relationship for about 4 years. Not married and no children. Partner is very financially secure, has no mortgage and has lived in the same property his entire life, which he inherited when his parents passed away. He has never married and has no children. He has also recently inherited another property. He works and is self-employed, although semi-retired.

I have always been very independent and always owned my own home, until a few years ago when I fell into financial difficulties as a result of health problems. He has helped me financially and has been extremely generous, kind and supportive towards me and I would have ended up homeless without his support, as he provided the funds for me to move to a rented property.

I am self-employed, but my income is very small currently, mainly due to health problems and also having to start again from scratch. I have no savings, or financially security and have become completely dependant on him financially. I am trying to work towards owning my own home again and regaining my independence and security, but realistically that may be a few years away.

He helps me with money whenever I need, for things like food and essential bills when I am short, but I generally have to ask / beg for his help, which I hate doing as I find it humiliating and degrading. I have always been very grateful and appreciative to him for his support.

Sometimes I have asked him to help with a specific amount and have to explain to him what the money is needed for, but sometimes he will only help with half, or less than half of what I need, which leaves me constantly scrimping and scraping and unable to ever have any luxury, or be able to relax and I am left constantly worrying about running out of money and having to ask him for more. This is also putting me into further debt, hindering my own ability to earn and re-build any financial security for myself and I am effectively living in poverty, unable to save anything and seem to be unable to move forward to improve my future.

I am so dependent on his financial support and would be homeless without the help he does provide.

I have tried to communicate with him about this, which I think he does understand, but nothing seems to change. Sometimes he will reassure me that he will always look after me financially, but sometimes if I ask for more money he tells me he cannot afford it.

I recently ran out of heating oil and no money for food shopping or basic essentials and he told me no, he cannot help me at the moment, as he has just had to pay out thousands of pounds for his annual property / car insurance etc. He also stated that he has used all of his savings on me and has nothing left, but had previously assured me that it was no problem for him to help. So I never quite know where I stand.

I am also being evicted from my rental due to landlord selling up. Because of my extremely bad credit rating, I will need 6 months rent upfront to move home, plus security deposit and other moving costs, which I simply cannot raise that sort of money by myself. I don't even have access to a credit card for emergencies. He is extremely financially well-off and doesn't seem to care if I become homeless, which has left me feeling incredibly insecure.

He mentioned he would be having a will written to look after me if anything ever happened to him, but seems to not really be bothered that I am struggling. He also mentioned he had brought himself a £3000 chainsaw, but says he cannot currently help me with any money for basic living costs.

I am not sure if he is enjoying the control he has, or if he genuinely doesn't realise my situation.

Is this financial abuse or AIBU?

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 04/06/2024 05:17

I don't think you quite grasp how finances work, either from his POV as someone who has savings/assets etc... or from yours.

He may be rich on paper, but this may well all be tied up, and he can only access a comparatively small amount month to month.

If most of his 'worth' is in property, investments, etc, then he cannot just dip into a bottomless pot any time you need/want.

Whether he is manipulating you, keeping you dangling, dependent on his cash intentionally or not, this relationship is not healthy, and is doomed.

He is not financially abusing you, you are in charge of your own finances - the fact that you've got no money is not his fault, nor is it his responsibility. Financial abuse is where one person prevents the other from controlling their own money/takes their money and that isn't whats happening here. (At least, not from him toward you).

Sort your situation out for yourself. Leave him completely out of it. Then see if there is still a relationship there once you've done that. I doubt there will be, but that is your business.

Are you earning all you could?
Are you claiming all the benefits you are entitled to?

The only way forward is for you to sort yourself out, independently of him.

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:19

DanielGault · 04/06/2024 04:34

Wouldn't it get a certain amount, and the rest is distributed in the will?

There is no will

OP posts:
Firefly1987 · 04/06/2024 05:20

WingSluts · 04/06/2024 05:10

I don’t think that’s the Gotcha you think it is. I read it as simply not having received child benefit presumably because there were no children, not that there were children but no benefits taken.

As a childless woman I didn't realise I was supposed to feel proud of myself for not having to claim child benefit for the kids I don't have.

MyMotherWasANarcissist · 04/06/2024 05:20

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:14

I don't have children and you misunderstood the post.

I've paid plenty of tax since age 15 though, which pays for other peoples child benefits.

As you have paid taxes sine you were 15, why are you aren’t you claiming benefits of some kind to help you out? surely, that’s what the system Is there for?

it can’t be due to pride as you clearly have no shame in sponging off a man who owes you nothing.

You sound like a nightmare and your DP has probably begun to see sense.

NeverEnoughPants · 04/06/2024 05:22

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:14

I don't have children and you misunderstood the post.

I've paid plenty of tax since age 15 though, which pays for other peoples child benefits.

Amazing! You must have earned fairly decently - certainly above average - to have paid enough tax to be a net contributer.

DanielGault · 04/06/2024 05:22

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:19

There is no will

Well tough shit then. That's the way it goes.

Lifesd · 04/06/2024 05:22

OP why do you keep mentioning child benefit - what has that got to do with anything here? Possibly part of the wind up…

Taxes we all pay will go towards the benefits you clearly need if you are as destitute as you say you are.

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:23

Lifesd · 04/06/2024 04:34

If this is real, and I doubt it is get out there and get a proper job that pays money so you can afford to live and assess what benefits you may leave . This man owes you nothing - more like you have asked him to bail you out multiple times which to his credit (or foolishness) he has done and you are kicking and creaming because he won’t give you more.

You doubt it's real? What just because its different to you own life? Really childish and narrow minded. And as for "proper job" I would put on having more proper jobs in my life than you ever have. Seriously, Grow up

OP posts:
BigtubOLard · 04/06/2024 05:23

The OP is probably a man who has come on here to make a goady thread thinking we would all support "her". But hey, if I'm wrong then my advice is get a job and support yourself.

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:24

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:23

You doubt it's real? What just because its different to you own life? Really childish and narrow minded. And as for "proper job" I would put on having more proper jobs in my life than you ever have. Seriously, Grow up

"I would put money on having"

OP posts:
NeverEnoughPants · 04/06/2024 05:24

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:23

You doubt it's real? What just because its different to you own life? Really childish and narrow minded. And as for "proper job" I would put on having more proper jobs in my life than you ever have. Seriously, Grow up

Are you saying you find it tricky to hold down a proper job? Why have you gone through so many?

DanielGault · 04/06/2024 05:25

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:23

You doubt it's real? What just because its different to you own life? Really childish and narrow minded. And as for "proper job" I would put on having more proper jobs in my life than you ever have. Seriously, Grow up

Do you have any actual useful information to add to the thread? Other than you feel entitled to someone else's money?

DanielGault · 04/06/2024 05:26

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:23

You doubt it's real? What just because its different to you own life? Really childish and narrow minded. And as for "proper job" I would put on having more proper jobs in my life than you ever have. Seriously, Grow up

Do you have any actual useful information to add to the thread? Other than you feel entitled to someone else's money?

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:26

MariaVT65 · 04/06/2024 04:35

Yes he would be better without somone in his life who sponges off him and accuses him of abuse online. Just imagine him having a nice loving relationship with a mature person who is respectful.

Maybe there's a reason he's never had that

OP posts:
3luckystars · 04/06/2024 05:26

You are just too different I think.

Long distance relationships only really work if there is an end in sight. Have you no plans to live together?

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:30

Cornflakelover · 04/06/2024 04:45

so you expect him to give you at least 3k for six months rent in advance. I’m going on the rent of a place being 500 a month
which is incredibly cheap so it could easily be more if it was in my city it would be at least 1k a month for a shitty crap flat

if you can’t afford to live in a house / flat then your going to have get a room in a shared house or flat

if your self employed and don’t earn enough then you need to get a full time job

What planet are you on?

OP posts:
DanielGault · 04/06/2024 05:32

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:30

What planet are you on?

Planet earth. It must be great where you are.

Growlybear83 · 04/06/2024 05:32

Why did you post this in AIBU when you seem to be refusing to listen to anything anyone says? Quite honestly, if you have the same extremely aggressive and unpleasant oattitude towards your boyfriend as you have shown towards many of the people on this thread, it's not really surprising that he hasn't made providing further financial support for you his priority.

echt · 04/06/2024 05:32

BigtubOLard · 04/06/2024 05:23

The OP is probably a man who has come on here to make a goady thread thinking we would all support "her". But hey, if I'm wrong then my advice is get a job and support yourself.

This.

CleanShirt · 04/06/2024 05:34

OP - AIBU?
MN - yes
OP - no I'm not, toys out of pram.

SoupChicken · 04/06/2024 05:35

So he lived with his parents until they died and has never had a partner or lived with anyone before? Sounds to me like he might be a vulnerable person and you’re taking advantage of him, so yes I’d say it is financial abuse, you need to seek help for your behaviour.

Summerdays24 · 04/06/2024 05:35

You are being used - he gives you scraps when he feels like it. It’s not an equal relationship and if he really cared he woujd ask you to move in or get married rather than watch you struggle.

He Is mean and tight fisted, but also uncommitted to you, so he doesn’t owe you anything. On that basis I would end this relationship and focus on getting a proper job so you can afford to live independently.

Immemorialelms · 04/06/2024 05:36

@mochachoc , I'm not going to go into the financial part of it because I agree with others that there's some work for you to do assessing how much money you get from your job and trying to find a better paying one or accessing benefits. I also appreciate how hard that can all be, so am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are trying to improve your own situation.

On the emotional front, what seems to be underneath your post is a feeling that this man enjoys having you on a string. He promises you money and then does not give it to you, or makes vague commitments then rows back, or says he has no money then deliberately shows you things he has bought. You get the impression he likes to have you beg and likes to keep you wrong-footed.

OK, that might be true. I validate your experience of that. I don't call it financial abuse but still you should leave him because it's affecting the way you look at him and the way you see yourself.

You can't change him or make him treat you better or get more money from him but you can walk away.

Would you like to post more about your finances without him in the picture - there are lots of women on here who have lived on small amounts and could help you plan.

PuddlesPityParty · 04/06/2024 05:37

Very clear the financial abuser is you OP. And TBH from your posts you just seem abusive in general - this man should run far away from you.

Cornflakelover · 04/06/2024 05:38

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 05:30

What planet are you on?

Planet earth - why where are you

clearly as the majority of people on this thread seek to agree with each other ( which is a rarity on mumsnet ) you seem to be the only person who think your boyfriend should support you

and yes you can rent a house / flat for 500 a month in some areas of country
But in others a flat / house will cost anything from
1k upwards

and if you clearly can’t support yourself either ckaom
universal credit or get a job as your self employed clearly isn’t working for you

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