To complain about “gender identity” question on a registration form

[Manhere2024]

Man here. I just tried to fill in a form sent out by a charity, but one of the questions was:

“Is your gender identity the same as the gender you were assigned at birth?”

I tried ignoring it, but it’s not possible to submit the form without answering this question.

So I emailed them saying that I don’t believe in gender identity theory, & it’s discriminatory for them not to give an option for those of us who are gender critical. I have asked if they can change the form, or handle my registration in another way.

I think they’ll be surprised, and perhaps I’ve embarrassed myself. But I won’t go along with something I consider to be harmful and wrong.

AIBU? What will likely happen next?

I mean really I’d have preferred if it just asked Sex M or F, like any such form would have done 20 years ago.

omfG

Have you ever thought to ask yourself why gen z -who have been on this earth for barely a million millionth of a second in terms of human evolution - have , according to your data, the largest % of people who “ identify as queer etc” ( is etc a new alphabet identity we should be aware of btw).

Could it possibly be that what you say is happening is not actually a Great Leap Forward in Human Evolution but the cumulative effect of

social media,
social isolation,
influencers,
manipulators,
commercial interests,
the internet,
Covid lockdown,
hysteria,
anxiety ,
fashion,
boredom,
desperation to be different,
desperation to find a tribe,
loneliness,
navel gazing,
autism,
sexual harassment of young women,
negativity about homosexuality,

And any combination thereof.

We have had these mass hysteria events before in history, tulip mania, witch trials, bean babies, the south sea bubble, bit coins. I think in ten years time we will see this for what it is, though sadly it will be far too late for those who have swallowed the kool aid and damaged their bodies and their mental health for all time.

And those wicked people who for their own purposes have encouraged this craziness will of course be promoting something else, being careful to feather their bank accounts ,but not to damage their own health and well being, in the process.

HTH. Soz. xx

Filling in new starter forms for a child about to enter primary school and was asked to confirm their gender. Given options of male; female; prefer not to say; other. This is for children barely 4 years old in some cases!!

Leaving it blank wasn’t an option as it needed completing to move on. So I chose other and wrote - sex : male. They’ve not come back to be about it!

Which doesn't seem particularly unreasonable I agree. I doubt however that the people in the offices processing the forms have any say in how they're constructed.

This

Have you not observed it since? 😁

No need to keep looking, it ain’t gonna change.

I work for a charity and deal with applications for a discount card. This is a question on our applications too but it’s not mandatory to answer. OP, good for you to question this. When I asked why it was on our applications I was told it’s an equality thing, not sure what a discount card has to do with whether you were born the same gender as you now identify as? The EDI Officer was made redundant soon after, so I wonder if the question might be removed.

I guess if you want to get nit picky then your sex is observed rather than assigned. I still believe gender is a social construct and people can live however they want personally.

Why is that better?

60 years ago you might have been asked your sex but not your sexuality, because back then homosexuality was considered taboo and was illegal. It’s hard to imagine that now.

Society changes in response to a deepening understanding of what it is to be human, but to have that understanding we need to ask these questions and people need to feel safe to answer truthfully.

There may well still be a debate to be had, but it’s regressive to just insist on applying a single and unnuanced view of gender and gender identity when the conversation has long since moved on.

Yanbu. The question is as offensive as if they were to give just the choices Christian Jewish or Muslim for religion without giving the choice to say no religion. And as irrational as asking you to declare the colour of your Aura. If you don't have a gender identity then it's impossible to a yes or no question about it.

And your sex would exist whether anyone had observed it or not. This language contortions drive me mad. I always try to put somewhere that my sex is F, I dont believe in GI, my beliefs are protected by the Forstater judgement etc whatever there is room for! Well done op for making the point

I guess if you want to get nit picky then your sex is observed rather than assigned. I still believe gender is a social construct and people can live however they want personally

Not nit-picky just accurate, Accurate, clear language should be used rather than nonsense waffle brought about about by a forceful ideology.

Agree, gender is a social construct and yes people can live as they want as long as that does not negatively impact on others, not the case with Gender Ideology.

@Begaydocrime94 egaydocrime94

The queer and trans community is incredible, beautiful and resilient

Its a community that is so incredible, beautiful and resilient that many LGB people deny its existence and its so weak that it ostracises anyone that doesn't believe in its terms/beliefs.

This puts it very well - this is a perfect analogy. No one would dream of asking about a religious belief in this way.

I think I large part of the problem is that the loudest factions on both sides are trying to steamroller each other. There needs to be a mid ground. Not all trans people want to negatively impact women, they can live how they like and be acknowledged without doing any harm.

Damn, wish I’d read this before I commented on the things I don’t care about thread.

Not all trans people want to negatively impact women**

How many do want to negatively impact women?!

So "agender" then. Without gender. Like asymmetrical= without symmetry.

I think you've embarrassed yourself because like it's just a form. Just type yes and get on with your life.

Never been asked my sexuality on any form ever.

Who I prefer to sleep with is irrelevant and no one's fucking business.

Fortunately, this appears to be well understood.

Never?

I've been asked plenty of times, usually for including in anonymised equality statistics.

Yes me too

sexual orientation is a protected characteristic under the equality act so I would expect to be asked about it

gender and gender identity are not

You aren't complaining about anything that others haven't complained about many times before. Yanbu to complain about this silly question.
Hopefully all the madness will go the way of the dodo soon.