DP called me a middle class racist

[Whoswhoof]

Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

Yes I agree. Labour are still stuck with the middle aged white male and it is a shame.

The term 'racism' has become so weak now because of off the cuff comments like your husband's. These days, when people call out racism, I feel it is largely ignored and often quite rightly although it means some true incidents of racism then slip through the net.

Your lack of taking your own advice is startling:
”side note can we keep this thread civil and not mudslinging or name calling?” Your words.

FWIW I have trawled through the entire thread and not once do you say how many times you’ve voted Labour.

HTH

Oh and feel free to split hairs over DP/DH.

bozzabollix : First of all it was Labour that privatized GP services not the Conservatives. And its now virtually impossible to see a GP ( altho the senior partner at our surgery drives a Maserati ) unless you use the local BMI hospital.

Then the population has grown by over 5million since 2010, a figure Labour want to increase, yet again in an uncontrolled fashion, for their own political purposes. And the Conservatives have no plans what so ever to privatize or "sell off" the NHS, to the Americans or the French or the Germans but wouldn't you really wish that were true. I mean, you're doing your best trying to convince everybody they are, which is complete BS.

Policies introduced during the pandemic were focused on preserving the NHS, protecting it. Boris Johnson poured praise on the NHS. And despite how the Guardian try and spin it, you don't get sent to ICU with a mild dose. I should know, I work there and did so during the entire emergency. And an additional £8b funding, above the planned increase, was issued to focus on the backlog of treatment. And we are now spending £181billion on it, more than we have ever done. And look at the mess Healthcare services are in Wales and Scotland.

Finally, I have worked for the NHS for over 20 years and I have never seen so much waste or spent so much time in meetings talking about how we must declare our preferred pronouns or unisex toilets or just general bollocks.

Ultimately, it's not the Government who run the NHS. The NHS runs the NHS.

Plus the Tories have fucked up our country big time with the stupid vanity project of Brexit. I doubt any imaginary thing Labour would do would have as detrimental affect on us than that. Yet people are scared of Labour!

Don't be so naive. The Torys have form for putting brown people in place to say things a white person could never get away with saying. They now elect brown home secretaries as standard for this purpose. The optics look good and people like you are fooled by it. Anyway, he isn't necessarily as awful as other Tories but voting Rishi out isn't racist.

@PrincessMiranda I’ve worked for 18 years in the NHS and have never ever spent time in any meeting discussing preferred pronouns or unisex toilets. It’s more discussing service levels, incidents, recruitment, and upcoming CQC visits. I think you’re being economical with the truth.

Fully agree. I doubt the op is genuine.

This is why this nonsense makes me so mad. The Left love to put people in boxes. I am left leaning, as I have said, but this ideological purity where white middle class people decide that Black and Brown people should all have the same experiences is what leads to this. Especially when the only acceptable experience is that of a victim who needs saving, even from their own ignorance because they dont know their own minds. Its so insidious amongst the Left it almost seems deliberately designed to keep people in their place.
Its not the PLP or the electorate or the Tory voters who keep electing White, male Labour leaders. It is the members and the Unions. They are the ones who can't seem to stomach a female leader.

Spend a week with me then.

But if Raynor is the option I’ll pass!!

What about for the last 80 years? Lots if incredible Labour woman politicians. Yet here we are.

Be glad he is not dumping you. I would not go to bed with anyone voting them.

Of course its a effective subsidy when a business is given a special exemption from the taxes every other business has to pay. Nobody seems to find this concept difficult when its applied to "development zones" or similar.

Similarly parents don't make "sacrifices" to pay school fees, they are exercising a luxury goods consumer choice which the vast majority of the population couldn't even consider.

My compliments, Tory HQ. This is certainly a far more clever approach than your previous wave of threads earlier this week.

OP what makes you think the tories have the answers to any of the issues you’ve identified (apart from private school fees) given they’ve done nothing about them or actively made them worse over the past 13 years?

@PrincessMiranda
I work in the NHS, too. GP practice.
Government is crippling us.
Enforced minimum wage increases of c10% but only funding GP practices 2%. Where do you think the deficit goes? We employ less staff.
95% of all NHS consults seen in GP practices.
Only 8% of Govt funding goes to GP Practices.
Government promise more GPs - there are now less.
Government controls trainee places and funding. NHS Trusts do have too many managers and meetings. GP surgeries don't- we cant afford them. I'm fed up about meetings telling me to do more work with less funding.

I can't afford more GPs or GP locums telling me that £250 for 2.5 hours work is not enough (£100/hr) - employed GP gets paid c£40/hr.

Any party except Tories I'd take a chance would do better for patients.

You should vote Tory. You're a Tory.

HTH

(Looking forward to a government that makes illegal immigration somehow more illegal)

Actually your grandparents’ generation were treated to a very hostile reception (I am sure that you know about the Notting Hill riots when locals turned against the “Windrush” generation, inflicting terror and violence on them). They were seen as British subjects rather than citizens which is what led to the Windrush scandal and the awful displacement of many who had thought themselves “legal”. Surely you know all this?

OP, it sounds like you think he intended it as a joke so in that case it probably wouldn't bother me (a bit like teasingly calling a left wing voter a champagne socialist maybe?).

HOWEVER, if his comments bothered you that's enough of a reason to have a conversation with him. I think in the run up to the election you should set some ground rules that either you won't discuss politics or that any discussion will be free from personal insults, rudeness or shouting. Otherwise this could really escalate and cause issues in your relationship. Based on your comments in this thread I'm sure you can hold your own in any debate so long as his ability to resort to cheap insults or snide remarks is removed. :)

He does sound very intolerant and also like he is in an echo chamber with his family members. Given that you are already upset about his comments, you should seriously consider taking advice about not telling his relatives how you'll vote otherwise you might well be on the receiving end of similar comments. Unfortunately, it's fairly common for certain types of left wing voters to be very partisan and to vilify those who vote the "wrong" way.

Bang on. It’s this particularly disturbing white saviour bollocks you see in Labour over and over again, and it’s rooted in racism! Everyone is a victim.

I absolutely would not be in a romantic relationship with a tory voter. People can vote for whoever they like and I absolutely hold that sacrosanct but I don't have to have them in my life if they vote for a party who's beliefs and behavior is abhorrent to me.

A fair assumption, given the context.

I agree entirely and made a similar point in another thread. It does make some labour supporters seem “thick” themselves, when all they can do is hurl insults at others. And when the evidence is that the Conservative cabinet/senior members is far more diverse than labour’s, they just say that they are racist too! So bizarre.
I’m a floating voter and will not be voting for Labour purely BECAUSE of their representation on social media… ie it’s had the OPPOSITE effect on me!

Politics matters for some people. I have never voted Tory and have always said I would never sleep with a Tory. If DH (lifelong Labour voter) suddenly announced he was voting Tory, I would be horrified and would question whether our values were still aligned.