DP called me a middle class racist

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Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

I have a feeling it’s not the only thing this poster misses going over her head

My husband has worked in the NHS since before the Tories took over in 2010. It was functioning pretty well in 2010, whereas now it’s barely functioning at all. He’s at a high level so in a good place to assess exactly what’s been going on.

Care funding has shot down so a massive problem for hospitals is releasing people out of hospital. Easy fix really, reinstate care funding. If we can afford to reinstate national service we can afford to do that. Again, NHS salaries if nonsense like national service goes can be helped. Become competitive in being an employer, get medics back who have left.

I hate the idea that people have that private companies can do a better job, they can’t. They go where the money is. Ever tried going to a private A&E? You can’t, the money isn’t in it. Likewise for any emergency medicine.

If I were a Tory I’d be ushering in private healthcare because our coffers would be full. Again, private companies pay their medics way more. But I don’t want what America has for this country. People bankrupted because they’ve had an accident, or dependent on opiates to manage conditions they’d get fixed for free here.

The Tories have done so well in making the more naive believe that the NHS can’t be revived, it can, if we follow America (and we will with the Tories) it’ll be truly shameful for this country.

Oh I think you find people do not vote to their own detriment.

😂

It was the first thing that came into my head when reading the OP. I then read the first several pages of earnest hand wringing thinking 'someone must know this quote". Maybe Father Ted fans are now far and few between. 😔

Some are cases of where the people who you are helping by taxes are better off than yourselves. It is happening to the middle classes.

I married someone who was so disinterested in politics I had no idea what his beliefs were. When Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party he decided to join the Labour Party and has got more and more involved in Left wing politics. We are both of the Left (I am firmly Centrist). To be honest, if Jeremy Corbyn has stayed leader of the Labour party, I don't know if I could have been able to stand it. We don't talk about it at all and that is the only reason we are still married I think. He's voting Green, but we are likely to go Labour from Conservative, so I don't care. I think that where he should be frankly.

It’s interesting. Can anyone voting for the Tories this time round on this thread say that hand on heart they vote for policies that mean they as individuals are worse off but agree with the principle of them making society fairer or life more bearable for someone less fortunate than them?

Lots of posters have the same thoughts as me, not sure why you've taken particular umbridge with me 🤷

Why mention the US? There are very many excellent healthcare models in Europe that we could emulate.

Voting Tory doesn’t automatically mean you’re racist. It does however mean you’re a twat.

The Tories have done so well in making the more naive believe that the NHS can’t be revived, it can, if we follow America (and we will with the Tories) it’ll be truly shameful for this country

European models are so much better than ours - why can we not borrow ideas from them?

Yawn!

I have not seen anyone else describing someone with different political opinions to them as 'thick as shit' on here - but do feel free to point them out.

Such an excellent level of political discourse on MN.

I am swerving in to ask- do you think being mixed race that this type of comment affects you more?

I think he’s being a dick and disregarding your experiences and right to choose using your own intelligence and process.

I think being mixed race leaves one open to these kind of stupid comments and following on is then the pressure to put up with them in a particular way that affects mixed heritage humans- but that’s another thread…

vote for who you like.

It’s comments like this that really turn off many floating voters from voting labour. Instead of intelligent debate or people explaining their points you just get accusations thrown that if you don’t vote the way I do you’re a thick racist etc. I think this has a massive part to play in why Corbyn lost so badly tbh.

I am voting Labour and am desperate to see the Tories out of power, BUT I appreciate that other people don't have to agree with me. Your husband is being disrespectful as are a lot of people on this thread.

Your husband will know about the public private partnerships instigated in the Blair years then. These contract, which gave us shiny new facilities 20 years ago, have trapped many NHS trusts in impossibly expensive repayment schemes. For some trusts it is their biggest single cost. Bigger than all their staffing costs combined.

Agree.

I hope it won’t get as bad in here. Was reading the experience of some tourists in NY being attacked in the subway. Due to their privilege. Ffs! This shit is toxic and it is what Labour proposes with the politics of envy, erasure of women rights to safe spaces etc…

Well, from reading your posts I think the Tories do seem like your political home so I don't know why your husband seems surprised.

I wonder if he's questioning your shared values? I would be. Although as others have pointed out, he's a hypocrite if he supports private education. There may be lots of current Labour members who do because the party has moved so far to the right, but it's certainly not in line with true Labour/Socialist values.

Labour wasn’t mentioned in the comment though?

Yes the trouble is they're all of the "I'm pulling up the draw-bridge behind me" persuasion.

So they may have made it to the pinnacle of success but what are they doing to promote the ability for others in their diverse group to enjoy those opportunities? Answer: not a lot

People mention the US as that’s the model we are likely to emulate. Yes there are better models in Europe but we won’t model our healthcare on them if privatised

When half the cabinet have ties to US pharma and healthcare corporations it’s a bit of a giveaway

Do you think people read this and think “you know what I actually am a twat, better change my ways and vote labour/lib dem/green”.

More likely they think god I have nothing in common with these idiots who vote for XYZ non-Tory party so that’s obviously not my political home.