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DP called me a middle class racist

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Whoswhoof · 31/05/2024 20:02

Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

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Whoswhoof · 01/06/2024 08:54

Simonjt · 01/06/2024 08:50

I hope your grandmother will never claim a state pension, what with her being an immigrant as you want to ensure immigrants cannot claim any benefits. Your grandmothers home is literally a home of immigrants, it isn’t different to the other houses on the road.

Have you ever actually lived somewhere with private healthcare? Its very funny you think NI would cover this, it also shows you don’t actually understand the purpose of NI either.

Well she won’t, she’s a landlord with about 40 houses here and abroad. (my Caribbean grandmother)

the grandmother I was referring to is my white grandmother. Who by the way is absolutely racist and I often fall out with her about it because it’s despicable. And she is ironically on benefits!

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EasternStandard · 01/06/2024 08:56

GameOfJones · 01/06/2024 08:52

I totally agree. DH and I have often voted differently in the past, and voted differently to our wider families too. We have a good debate about it, but have never fallen out over a vote. I have voted Conservative, Greens and Lib Dem in the last three elections so I'm a floating voter and I vote based on which party's manifesto I feel aligns with my views and priorities most closely.

I actually find some Labour supporters the worst for frothing and screaming and lack of intelligent discussion and it really, really turns me off voting Labour. The person saying they would divorce their partner for voting Conservative just sounds utterly demented.

I thought that about some responses.

pointythings · 01/06/2024 08:56

I know many people who have voted Conservative in the past, living as I do in a very Tory area.

The majority are either not voting this time round, or not voting Tory. There is a huge difference between the conservatives we used to have - decent sensible people on the right of the political divide who nevertheless had competence and integrity. I disagreed with them, but I respected them.

But to start voting Tory now of all times? They're incompetent, cruel, selfish and only after their own enrichment. They vilify people with disabilities - I have a disabled son who works and gets PIP, and the proposed PIP reforms terrify me even though his disabiliities are physical and he has a stack of medical evidence a mile high. He will never be able to work full time. Without PIP, he will not be able to work at all. And that is what you want to vote for.

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:56

EasternStandard · 01/06/2024 08:47

Do you end all relationships if they vote against what you do? Friends and family etc or do they all vote Labour / left already

They don't have to vote the same obviously, just not Tory 🙂 as I said, I think in life you have some core values and ethics that you live by, and I would not.marry someone who had the opposite values. Thankfully DH is even less likely to vote Tory than me.

EasternStandard · 01/06/2024 08:58

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:56

They don't have to vote the same obviously, just not Tory 🙂 as I said, I think in life you have some core values and ethics that you live by, and I would not.marry someone who had the opposite values. Thankfully DH is even less likely to vote Tory than me.

Ik just not Tory which is why I said left in there too. But do you end all relationships or does no one you know vote in the wrong way?

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:59

EasternStandard · 01/06/2024 08:47

Do you end all relationships if they vote against what you do? Friends and family etc or do they all vote Labour / left already

The only relative I know of who has voted Tory is BIL, but it's well known he's thick as shit anyway.

Scavernick · 01/06/2024 09:00

SpentAll · 01/06/2024 08:50

I’ve been happily married to a Tory for over 20 years. Because I am not a penguin. Not everything is black and white, and there is nuance and it’s perfectly possible to hold two opposing views in your head at the same time. Just needs a modicum of intelligence and thought.

I think I’d’ve found it hard to agree on everything, I’d find it dull. I like the challenge and the debate.

This.

SpentAll · 01/06/2024 09:01

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:56

They don't have to vote the same obviously, just not Tory 🙂 as I said, I think in life you have some core values and ethics that you live by, and I would not.marry someone who had the opposite values. Thankfully DH is even less likely to vote Tory than me.

That’s where nuance comes in.

DH and I have similar ethics and core values but he still believes in a lot of the One Nation type Tory policies, especially around economics, which I don’t.

Doesn’t mean that we are fighting over whether our DC go to private school etc.

EasternStandard · 01/06/2024 09:01

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:59

The only relative I know of who has voted Tory is BIL, but it's well known he's thick as shit anyway.

Any friends?

Well that’s it I suppose one person who I assume you still see (or maybe you don’t) but dislike immensely

Scavernick · 01/06/2024 09:02

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:59

The only relative I know of who has voted Tory is BIL, but it's well known he's thick as shit anyway.

You really do sound lovely. 🙄

K0OLA1D · 01/06/2024 09:02

If my dp told me he was voting Tory, I'd honestly think we'd end up splitting up

Lou7171 · 01/06/2024 09:02

Whoswhoof · 01/06/2024 08:52

Can you read?

Yeah you mentioned this happened under the Tories, so thought I'd emphasise that point 😊

bozzabollix · 01/06/2024 09:03

I do feel for your husband here, I’m not sure what I’d do if my husband announced he was voting Conservative apart from possibly get him a doctor’s appointment to check for early dementia.

You do realise all the issues you’re voting about happened on their watch, don’t you? They have been in power 14 years or have you conveniently forgotten that?

The Tories have destroyed so much that it’s pretty antisocial to be voting for them. Brexit was and continues to be a shit show, partying during the pandemic was unbelievable, as was effectively killing elderly people by releasing Covid positive people into care homes. Interest rates are just about killing peoples via mortgage payments because that bitch two week PM Liz Truss knew better and tanked our economy. I can go on and on. Voting to continue to fuck this country up is selfish and irrational. I seriously think if my husband announced he was voting for them the disappointment would just about wreck our marriage. So you’re getting away pretty lightly with a joke.

I would be very careful about his family knowing too.

There’s a good reason why there are quiet Tory voters, they realise they are voting selfishly, they don’t care about others and they know it’s going to upset people. Just be quiet about it, that’s my advice.

K0OLA1D · 01/06/2024 09:03

Chickatease · 01/06/2024 08:56

They don't have to vote the same obviously, just not Tory 🙂 as I said, I think in life you have some core values and ethics that you live by, and I would not.marry someone who had the opposite values. Thankfully DH is even less likely to vote Tory than me.

Agree with this 100%

Scavernick · 01/06/2024 09:05

...that bitch two week PM Liz Truss...

Another charmer.

Mischance · 01/06/2024 09:08

Two of my GC are at private school - their parents understand that the fees might rise but regard it as fair.

askmenow · 01/06/2024 09:08

Cadela · 31/05/2024 20:05

Well are you voting Tory for racist policies?

Why is it racist to say...that increased migration has brought the U.K. gdp per capita down year after year.

The working class are most affected whilst those at the top get cheaper labour perpetuating the myth that the country is doing well whilst many feel poorer.

Blair started this by throwing open the doors to unrestricted Eastern European migration by succession countries. The rest of Europe phased in open borders.

The UK is now drunk on cheap labour and it's not racist to state fact.

ginandbearit · 01/06/2024 09:09

Not read the whole thread but I think ops DP is quoting Father Ted "I hear you're a racist now Father " ..

RaverQuavers · 01/06/2024 09:09

Cush21 · 01/06/2024 08:36

£2.9 billion… a year… on hotel accommodation alone

You are aware that shipping people off to Rwanda and housing them there temporarily is going to cost more than that right?

It costs more to send people to Rwanda than keep them in hotels here

Do you know what would actually cut the bill? The Tories processing asylum claims in a timely fashion. They take 18x longer to process claims compared to the next slowest western nation

cremebrulait · 01/06/2024 09:09

This post is absurd. You want sympathy for saying your voting for the party that has overseen the UK on a massive decline for years. That has failed to deport convicted criminals! Have failed to stop the boats. Now they're saying all kinds of things that they're going to do if re-elected. But they're already there! Theyve done F-all that is useful.

Kids sex-ed...well lots of teachers have said the new guidance is full of holes. Labour haven't committed to keeping it and they shouldn't. It has just been announced quickly as a means to win votes from people. Parents and myself have said it's unclear and lacks clarity. I have a friend who's child was born male and dresses as a girl and wants to be referred to as 'they'. My friend's husband transitioned to a she. Life is life...but we need more clarity on what to teach kids starting with informing parents of the curriculm that will be taught before it happens so that we can speak to our own children about our views and beliefs. My DS has been called a girl by bullies because of his curly hair. He can't fathom why anyone would think he is a girl. He can't understand why our friend's son dresses like a girl. He's knows to be polite about it and that it's not really any of his business. Obviously our friends have had conversations that are deeper than what I am teaching my son. My point - the current conservative race to update guidance is a sad attempt to score points. It's not an attempt to solve issues in a thorough way.

Why is it fair that private schools don't pay VAT? The money raised will be used to improve state schools and teacher pay and more. The are arguments that the extent of private schools in the UK is bad for the state school systems. But at any rate, it's a shock...but seriously if you can afford to send your children to a private school perhaps you're oblivious to the cost of living crisis being experienced by many of your countrymen?

Tortiemiaw · 01/06/2024 09:11

@bozzabollix. Me too! Grin
I do feel for your husband here, I’m not sure what I’d do if my husband announced he was voting Conservative apart from possibly get him a doctor’s appointment to check for early dementia.

Scavernick · 01/06/2024 09:13

Tortiemiaw · 01/06/2024 09:11

@bozzabollix. Me too! Grin
I do feel for your husband here, I’m not sure what I’d do if my husband announced he was voting Conservative apart from possibly get him a doctor’s appointment to check for early dementia.

I guess you unable to see how offensive this is?

Readmorebooks40 · 01/06/2024 09:16

Why would anyone want to give up free health care. It's absolutely bonkers. I know it's a mess but at least under labour it might improve a little. I'm also a teacher and schools are so underfunded it's a joke. Privatisation of health care won't solve the problems. There will still be a shortage of staff and waiting lists will be huge. Many American's who have had cancer etc are in huge debt. It costs thousands to have a baby, people can't afford operations etc etc. The NHS is so so so important. We need to invest in it not shake our heads and say it's beyond repair. Private education isn't always better either. I've taught in both. Please be sensible and vote for our very very important services that benefit everyone!

SpentAll · 01/06/2024 09:16

Tortiemiaw · 01/06/2024 09:11

@bozzabollix. Me too! Grin
I do feel for your husband here, I’m not sure what I’d do if my husband announced he was voting Conservative apart from possibly get him a doctor’s appointment to check for early dementia.

I think that’s the thing here, that the OP is clearly lying that they ever voted Labour to start with (didn’t reply to any questions about this). It’s just not believable.

As it’s not believable that someone could suddenly switch like this in a marriage - essentially changing all their viewpoints on multiple issues. I knew I was marrying a One Nation Tory and I work with it, debate daily etc. I’d not be best pleased if they had a personality transplant 10 years into the marriage 😂

TheCadoganArms · 01/06/2024 09:16

He is clearly riffing off the famous Father Ted quote and trying to be funny. In your haste to be offended and post on Mumsnet you might have missed the gag flying over your head.

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