DP called me a middle class racist

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Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

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That's basically the core difference between the left and right. The left is about pooling your resources for the benefit of everyone. The right is about holding onto your resources for the benefit of yourself.

But why is immigration of course a problem?

People always cite housing, healthcare, schools, etc but if you look at studies it shows that these areas are nor negatively impacted by immigration. On the contrary. So why is immigration of course a problem?

It was a social movement!! A woke social movement. I think you’ll find they’re led from the left more than the right. But if anyone spoke up against it they were lambasted.

whether or not this is a plant thread or not, they hit one thing on the head and that is that the left do love to mud sling… as do the media now. Don’t you recall the pro- transitioning crap on the news? Mermaids?

I’m annoyed that the Tories took so long to act.

£2.9 billion… a year… on hotel accommodation alone

Do you mean work visa immigration or irregular immigration ie via trafficking?

Thanks for your reply. I think that the NHS is beyond repair if I’m honest. It’s appalling. It’s not fit for purpose.

Lack of training, lack of motivation for staff, silly and incredibly dangerous mistakes constantly being made ?I’ve witnessed this too many times first hand). Yes this happened under tories but I think it’s important to look at the state of the country when the tories took over and how this has led to the state it’s in now.

at this point, I believe privatising the nhs would be beneficial for all. We pay national insurance, imo that money would be better used towards private healthcare. And before anyone suggests it, why should anyone pay private healthcare AS WELL AS mandatory NI?

there needs to be a complete overhaul, private companies providing training and dictating wage. It sadly is just too far gone as far as I’m concerned.

social housing I agree needs addressing, but look who is occupying any that crop up? Immigrants. My grandmothers road has dozens of immigrant families that don’t speak a word of English, on benefits, some disabled, and having things like their kids taken to schools (schools that nobody in the area can get in, but they’ve walked right in) in a taxi. HMOs cropping up full of them now too.

culture it’s important, we’re losing it.

the food banks is another issue, gov need to crack down on food price hikes and fuel hikes.

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I wouldn't be married to someone who voted Tory so I'd be glad he only made a joke and didn't file for divorce. It would go so against my core values and maybe your DH feels the same

https://dancegeneration.co.uk/my-excludeduk-story/

The country is a mess.....neither party has the capability to fix it.

I think I read it this morning. It was 5am though, as I have a streaming cold. Ill read the interview again. The asylum policy made a lot of sense to me. ( I am not a Starmer cheerleader, but its just nice to be able to vote positively for a party for once as a centre Left person)

Again, all happened under the Tories.

How do you think ‘privatising’ the NHS will work? I’ve worked in both sectors and while the private hospitals are nicer and don’t have packed waiting rooms, the diagnostic equipment is to put it kindly-not as up to date as that in the NHS. But if we were all using ‘private’ services, the sector would be just as overwhelmed. All the things you are complaining about happened over the past 14 years. All countries suffered a financial shock after 2008 but guess which country-due to ideological austerity-let its public services suffer the most?

The amount we pay in NI each month wouldn't even cover a broken finger or blood test under private healthcare.

And I can't tell if the bit about immigrants is a joke? If not, then I imagine that answers the being called a racist thing

Do you end all relationships if they vote against what you do? Friends and family etc or do they all vote Labour / left already

OP - how many times have you ever voted Labour?

If it is the policy it’ll be big news. Atm it’s elite border security on the UK border. Which will be problematic as a way to tackle trafficking

I've read a few comments on why people are not voting Labour beacuse of their views on gender.but rishi sunak said that that as a dad to 2 girls its a personal priority for him to tackle violence against women and girls.

But sadly this action has not been forthcoming votes against making misogyny a hate crime not making rape,sexual assault and domestic violence a police priority.women and girls still face sexual harrasment in the street everyday.

It's not just on crime as well that statistics are quite sad,from employment rights,parenting,cost of living the tories have let women down.

I'm not writing this beacuse I hate the tories,women are not a minority of the population they represent 51% of the population,we are all here bescuse of women.we can and must do better

I hope your grandmother will never claim a state pension, what with her being an immigrant as you want to ensure immigrants cannot claim any benefits. Your grandmothers home is literally a home of immigrants, it isn’t different to the other houses on the road.

Have you ever actually lived somewhere with private healthcare? Its very funny you think NI would cover this, it also shows you don’t actually understand the purpose of NI either.

I’ve been happily married to a Tory for over 20 years. Because I am not a penguin. Not everything is black and white, and there is nuance and it’s perfectly possible to hold two opposing views in your head at the same time. Just needs a modicum of intelligence and thought.

I think I’d’ve found it hard to agree on everything, I’d find it dull. I like the challenge and the debate.

I wouldn’t have made a comment 14 years ago, everyone has their reasons and obviously has the right to vote as they see fit. But 14 years of spiraling downwards and people still think the Tories will fix things they’ve caused with their policies? If I was in a relationship with someone who said they’re going to vote Conservative I’d blurt out something in shock. Have they given a shit about women’s rights or stopped immigration or whatever other reason people vote for them, in the last 14 years? I am disappointed that the alternative is Starmer, but we don’t yet have solid proof that he won’t be able to put us on a better pathway, because he hasn’t had power. Tories have had their chance and fucked it time and again because ultimately they are the most selfish and self-serving bastards in the country, and can’t do anything with integrity. All this ‘yeah but they care about this or that issue’ no they fucking don’t, and haven’t done for years. Rape is practically legal and women’s maternity care and other rights have gone to the dogs. NHS is hanging by a thread and the big bad immigrants everyone is scared of haven’t been stopped under the Tories. I don’t get how anyone doesn’t take past form into consideration?

Can you read?

YABU for voting Tory, absolutely on this with your husband.

Maybe 8? Green 2 or 3 times

I totally agree. DH and I have often voted differently in the past, and voted differently to our wider families too. We have a good debate about it, but have never fallen out over a vote. I have voted Conservative, Greens and Lib Dem in the last three elections so I'm a floating voter and I vote based on which party's manifesto I feel aligns with my views and priorities most closely.

I actually find some Labour supporters the worst for frothing and screaming and lack of intelligent discussion and it really, really turns me off voting Labour. The person saying they would divorce their partner for voting Conservative just sounds utterly demented.