DP called me a middle class racist

[Whoswhoof]

Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

What a nasty bunch - I have come to the realisation that the left only pay lip service to kindness, civility and integrity- underneath you just see this repeated brutish behaviour. Who would want to be associated with that I ask you.

No, or I wouldn’t have posted it.

That says everything about you to be fair, you are really not helping the Labour cause.

This is incorrect, obviously I can't tell if it is accidental or you're rewriting history for political reasons.

Politicians from both sides bear some responsibility over the years for not proactively addressing paperwork gaps but the Conservative governments were responsible for the changes post-2010, and ignored warnings about how the changes were affecting people. A Conservative Home Secretary resigned, and Teresa May herself has just talked about her role.

Discussing the Windrush scandal, she said: "Should we in the Home Office have had a greater sense of trying to identify whether there were other people, people who were going to get caught up in this way?

"I don't believe that question was ever asked. And that's what lay behind the problems."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-69066773

Nice try to get a new angle on politics here @Whoswhoof , but you will only get the standard MN Lefties churning out the same old stuff which has diverted your thread a little.
Remember that MN Threads have been massively wrong over many elections.
Brexit will never happen - X
Teresa May is right -X
Boris will never get elected -X
I am a Tory member and voter. But they have failed, they have lost all political skills as well so many MPs losing their own integrity.

I don’t care a whit about what a Tory thinks of me 🤷‍♀️ and labour are too right wing for me, not sure why you’ve decided I’m fighting for their cause.

And you think Labour have the political skill to do anything should they win?

If you are ‘genuinely baffled’, that shows some political ignorance I think. Of course individuals can do as they please but I thought everyone knew that private schooling does not fit into traditional Labour Party values?

Is this thread really the first time you have heard of it? Hmm.

Hmmmmm do I want to be associated with someone racist or someone who stands up to racists?

decisions decisions.

Sadly the racists on here seem to on the left. You might want to read the whole thread.

@Polishedshoesalways , I think they have the political skills to survive at least one complete term as Government. Maybe 2terms.
Their Policies will I think start unravelling in two years time. Then the UK will realise that we must change to survive.
Overall I am in dread of discovering that there are so few people in the country that can do the job efficiently and honestly.

Please explain which Tory policies you consider racist?

Tories ain’t racist. They classist.

voting Tory after the last 14 years of chaos, shows you clearly don’t understand your Caribbean or Irish heritage.

your clearly blind to their destruction. Also we need immigration.

They way they’ve treated the wind rush scandal
the whole way they deal with treat the asylum sealers
Rwanda
Brexit
Zionism and Isreal
they’re treatment of the Palestine protest march’s

As has been said many , many times by people of Black and minority descent, Black and Asian descent people have the right to vote for whoever they want, for whatever reason they want. Just like White people. This is why the Tories end up with the first female Prime Minister and the first Asian descent Prime Minister when Labour can't even got a female leader 40 years later. Elements of the Labour movement are stuck in stereotypes about women and Black people. They do not see them as people but as homogenous groups which, even to Labour voters like me, is immensely irritating and infantalising. The only people who have a right to make their own autonomous decisions are the White Middle Class intellectuals of the Labour movement. I am of a minority group, and I am voting Labour, but I have many relatives and friends who have voted Tory. Because they decided to vote Tory for the same reasons White people decided to vote Tory. Because Black and Brown people are also capable of looking at their own lives and backgrounds and making their own decisions.

Having a diverse cabinet does not mean that the Tories don’t enact racist policies.

The Tories have left so many immigrants in so why are they called racists? Are they fake and really not right wing but center left? Or is it that this country could never have a truly right wing government? Or that they are racist but incompetent? Pls back up with evidence from credible sources🤣

I mean I read your comment then continued to scroll down and saw some so not sure I really need to read 16 pages of white women talking about what they think is racism.

As an asian person can people stop being so stupid as to think the colour of my skin should dictate how I vote, I have never had my ethnicity at the forefront of my mind when voting. I also have zero time for the asian people who use words like “coconut” to try to shame other asian people into line. It’s weak, it’s not an argument, it’s demanding obedience and conformity.

As an asian woman I find it really triggering tbh, it’s the same kind of shaming used against minority women by minority men to ensure compliance and obedience. “if you behave this way/wear that you are a whore, if you want independence and freedom you are trying to be white, you are a coconut and a race traitor for not doing what I say ” sounds similar to “if you vote this way you are a coconut and a race traitor”. Fucking shameful.

Depressingly I’ve only ever heard that shite from the left and it’s got worse over the years. Ethnic minority people are not stupid and are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves how they will vote. None of us owe any party our vote.

Says the person who thinks Rwanda is great but can’t quantify how

You’re a joke

Yeah because THAT is the reason not to vote Tory.

It’s one of hundreds. Lots of people are still rightly angry about it. It will def be a deciding factor for some.

He thinks the Tories are racist. Lots of people do…

I completely agree.

Many state schools are an utter mess, large numbers of classes taken by poor quality supply, awful behaviour, accommodation that is literally falling down. The roll back of OFSTED post covid and changes post the tragic death of the head teacher are conveniently hiding this for the government as they can say ‘80% or whatever of schools are good’ But parents are generally well aware of it anyway.

So that drives people into private. A lot of kids move to private during secondary. The later it’s done the more affordable it is.