DP called me a middle class racist

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Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

Please don't forget that if someone is against the current Conservative government it doesn't make them automatically on the left and there are al lot of people who sit more in the middle.

It often seems to the case on here that if someone is against the Conservatives then they are assumed to be Labour and it often isn't this simplistic. Happens every election on here.

Okay…so I don’t think you’re getting what I’m saying. I don’t want thousands of unskilled people coming into the country full stop. I don’t want someone who can’t speak our language, has no skills and no money to support themselves, coming here and bringing with them their equally unskilled family, who then put pressure on our housing, education and NHS. I want quality over quantity. The Tories aren’t sorting it, and I’m pretty sure Labour will be as bad, if not worse.

Education isn’t all about grades.

Works the other way too. I’ve been assumed on here to be Tory because I’m slating Labour, when in fact I’m neither. They’re both as crap as each other.

It's about SEX. Not 'gender'. We have single SEX spaces for a reason. By keeping males out of female spaces and rape trauma services, we are not 'restricting access to safe spaces' for males. They already have their spaces. Female spaces are not meant to be 'inclusive' of males, that's the ENTIRE POINT of them!

Equally if someone is currently Conservative it doesn’t automatically make them on the right.

People are more than the sum of their experiences that were chosen for them by their parents. That isn't hypocritical, it's part of being an adult that you become independent from the views of your parents and develop your own .

Absolutely. With our current electoral system people are often chasing what they feel to be the least worst option. L

Low? Just what risk would be an acceptable risk to grant women and girls our most basic sex-based rights?

And what are the benefits of unisex spaces for women and girls? Name one? There are ZERO benefits to having males in our single sex spaces. Only detriment. This explains it better: https://archive.md/JLFJn

Which only tends to happen as we mature and experience life

But they HAVE directly benefited and used that privilege to take positions of power to tell people like me that I am mistaken for wanting my dc a million miles away from the school that saw all forms of daily assault as a part of my education of life, this was my experience in a comp school under Labour..No thanks.

I am a floating voter but was called a fascist by a Labour voter on another thread because I support woman’s rights.

Pure Hate!

100%. Take a look at Ireland, the people are turning against the govt and the Gardai, all down to misguided immigration policy. You just can't transplant unskilled people from a wildly different culture in huge numbers into a settled western society with zero regard to infrastructure or the drain on the welfare system. If Labour don't get this right, we will face the same thing here within a few short years.

I’ll give it 6months!

The tories have always vilified immigrants presumably to appeal to people's racist tendencies and win a few more votes. They have also introduced policies to make life in the uk harder for immigrants again purely to win votes. Many tory mps clearly are racist and a lot of tory followers are very racist as well. People who vote tory might not be racist themselves but they are definitely comfortable with throwing immigrants (all immigrants, not just illegal ones) under the bus.

Keir starmer sounds worryingly populist as well but my hope is he won't be once they are actually in power. I have a child in private school as well and the 20% increase is really going to hit us hard but I'd never vote Conservative. They stand for everything I disagree with and make life more unpleasant for all of us especially us immigrants and especially us immigrants who are not white.

How?

Hypocrisy is telling people not to do something and choosing to do it yourself. But children don't (generally) get to choose their school, and you certainly wouldn't expect a child to have the political maturity to refuse to go to a private school for ideological reasons.

Would you say that a Green party politician who advocates for everyone else to cycle everywhere, and themselves also cycles everywhere, is hypocritical simply because their parents had a car when they were a kid?

I genuinely think there is every chance that Labour with zero chance of even attempting to secure our borders will oversee the end of our NHS and welfare state, it will simply become unaffordable unless we can control the numbers.

What happens then?
Civil unrest?
A civil war?

I have heard many Labour voters say we should be border less and anyone should be able to come here, they shriek at the Rwanda plan but offer no alternatives.

Also, for the ignorant: We have a points system. We have had a points system for decades for non eu immigration.

They never acknowledge their privilege and masquerade as working class when they are nothing lof the sort. How can they represent the working classes if they have never ever experienced it? It’s outrageous for multi millionaires like Starmer to pretend he is a man of the people. No he really really isn’t! He is a rich public school boy living in a two million pound house

Many a true word is spoken in jest. I guess he had his reasons for saying what he did.

I just couldn’t vote for a party that cannot describe what a woman is. Slippery slope. So Conservative it is. The rest is all a mish mash to me.

Except op is mixed race from a working class background so not remotely ‘true’.

As long as it's other people, not you being taxed it's all good eh?

But how can you vote for the party that kept the GRA in place? To say nothing of the numerous other ways they have been shafting women over the last 14 years.

Not sure if you've noticed, but under the Tories there has been absolutely nothing that keeps men out of female spaces if they want to get in.