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To push ds into claiming

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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travelallthetime · 31/05/2024 17:25

it took my 16 year old 2 days to get a job waiting on a weekend. He earns minimum wage but about £100 in tips a night......it is not difficult to get a job

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:25

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:23

I'll say it again I agree he needs a job but I've seen people applying for all of the jobs mentioned and not get a single response.

But you just said your son has managed to get some work recently, so this doesn’t apply to him does it. Now he has experience working with people he gets a bar/shop/cafe job.

BMW6 · 31/05/2024 17:25

"Worked a couple of Festivals" 😂

Of course he did - he wanted the experience of being at Festivals!! The work was incidental!

You can't see what is staring you in the face.

I'll tell you what, YOU keep giving him £££££££ by all means - but don't you look to others for his handouts.

Graciiee · 31/05/2024 17:25

You said in your OP he's never worked, but now he has worked. He just needs a job like everyone else. But he won't want to get one while he's having his arse wiped and being handed £450 a month.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:26

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:20

It’s not random, everyone is saying the same - he needs to get a job, any job, not claim benefits. He doesn’t need them and they aren’t there to tide over students once the bank of mum and dad starts to run dry.

Well ds is holding off until he gets his results which probably shows he doesn't want to take tax payers money and get a job instead.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:27

BMW6 · 31/05/2024 17:25

"Worked a couple of Festivals" 😂

Of course he did - he wanted the experience of being at Festivals!! The work was incidental!

You can't see what is staring you in the face.

I'll tell you what, YOU keep giving him £££££££ by all means - but don't you look to others for his handouts.

Can you explain don't look to others and how did this become a benefit bashing thread

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BMW6 · 31/05/2024 17:28

Oh and anyone with a brain cell can fail to get jobs........if they dont want a job🙄

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:28

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:26

Well ds is holding off until he gets his results which probably shows he doesn't want to take tax payers money and get a job instead.

He still expects to be bank rolled by you though, and that’s fine keep paying him - don’t push him into benefits.

Pin0cchio · 31/05/2024 17:30

Getting work this time of year is easy. There's loads of seasonal part time work.

What he wants doesn't get a say. Just cut him off financially and leave him to it.

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 17:30

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:26

Well ds is holding off until he gets his results which probably shows he doesn't want to take tax payers money and get a job instead.

Honestly how are you not getting it? In the meantime he should get a different job. It’s so basic.

what is the fucking matter with people in this country now?

need money = WORK

he hasn’t even applied for any bloody jobs. My sister is 16 and has TWO weekend jobs. It’s not hard, she just went round with her CV and asked. Lots of her friends saying “you’re so lucky”. She’s not lucky, she just put in some effort

WilmaFlintstone1 · 31/05/2024 17:30

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:16

Well it seems we've failed at parenting despite having bought up a young man who has never been involved in crime and is respectful to people and went to uni and worked hard I find that posters comment very judgemental and random

I agree but this is MN, nothing some like more than kicking someone.

Tell him to claim UC while he looks for work, the job coaches will know what companies are best for quick work. He will have to show he is applying for jobs as part of his claim but that’s okay as it will give him practice at applications etc. they also offer stuff like interview skills.

BMW6 · 31/05/2024 17:31

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:27

Can you explain don't look to others and how did this become a benefit bashing thread

Don't look to others - you want others to work and put ££££ in your not working sons pocket!

Am absolutely NOT Benefit Bashing.
Benefits are for those who CANNOT work. Not those who would rather not.

Your son can work so he should. He should be working and paying taxes to help support those who can't.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:31

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:28

He still expects to be bank rolled by you though, and that’s fine keep paying him - don’t push him into benefits.

Well I started this thread as that's not what I wanted to do I didn't expect to have my parenting critisized and for it to turn into benefit bashing. Fwiw me and his dad have never claimed a penny and worked all our life so we haven't set a bad example that he's followed.

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Howmanycatsistoomany · 31/05/2024 17:33

So he's 21 or 22 and never had a job? At all? That's not a good look on his cv. Employers expect graduates to have some experience of the job market, even if it is just part-time stacking shelves in Tesco or bar work. He needs to pull his finger out and you need to stop treating him like a child, you're not doing him any favours.

cestlavielife · 31/05/2024 17:33

He needs to get a summer job

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:34

BMW6 · 31/05/2024 17:31

Don't look to others - you want others to work and put ££££ in your not working sons pocket!

Am absolutely NOT Benefit Bashing.
Benefits are for those who CANNOT work. Not those who would rather not.

Your son can work so he should. He should be working and paying taxes to help support those who can't.

It's definately had some benefit bashing as you may remember one poster saying she's working to find others knock the ones making it a lifestyle choice not people just needing a little help whilst they find a job.

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TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:34

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:31

Well I started this thread as that's not what I wanted to do I didn't expect to have my parenting critisized and for it to turn into benefit bashing. Fwiw me and his dad have never claimed a penny and worked all our life so we haven't set a bad example that he's followed.

He isn’t really the issue, you are! You’ve always paid and now it’s more expensive you don’t want to pay for him so in your words you want to push him to claim benefits!

GwenH82 · 31/05/2024 17:34

It's not benefits bashing. Benefits are for those who cannot work. Not for a newly ex student to doss around for 3 months faffing about with his cv. It's not a surprise that his course came to an end. He (and you op) has had time to plan for this.

Octavia64 · 31/05/2024 17:34

It's not about the benefits.

Most people who do a degree are looking for graduate jobs.

Jobs where you need to be a graduate very often start in September just like university does.

A lot of companies who employ a lot of graduates - accountancy firms like Deloitte, or the civil service, or a bank like UBS - run graduate schemes. If you get a place on their graduate scheme (get a job with them) then they teach you about their conpany and move you round the company to give you experience of several areas over a few years before you specialise in one area.

Because this is a very organised programme they usually only have one intake per year which is in September.

So what people are saying is that he has missed the boat for most of the graduate schemes. They will now be full for September.

Sometimes people want to focus on their degree in their third year and so they get a non-graduate job for a year while they apply to the graduate schemes for the September start. This would be coffee shop, bar work, data entry etc.

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 17:37

WilmaFlintstone1 · 31/05/2024 17:30

I agree but this is MN, nothing some like more than kicking someone.

Tell him to claim UC while he looks for work, the job coaches will know what companies are best for quick work. He will have to show he is applying for jobs as part of his claim but that’s okay as it will give him practice at applications etc. they also offer stuff like interview skills.

You don’t need someone to tell you what companies to apply for for “quick work”, it’s pretty simple.

Sirzy · 31/05/2024 17:37

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:23

I'll say it again I agree he needs a job but I've seen people applying for all of the jobs mentioned and not get a single response.

But from what you have said he isn’t applying for jobs yet. He is expecting his parents to fund him and now you don’t want to you are expecting the state to do it.

beneifts aren’t for someone to have a few months off work to write a CV!

RagzRebooted · 31/05/2024 17:37

I think it takes about 5 weeks to get any money from UC anyway, so it would be faster to get a job.
You haven't really done him any favours by financially supporting him for this long.
My 16 year old has a paid job and my 17 year old has 2, because he wants to run a car. They both struggled to find these because we're really rural and there aren't many jobs about. In a university town/city I'd expect your son to find a job in a week, if he really tried.

AnneLovesGilbert · 31/05/2024 17:38

It literally is a lifestyle choice. He could be earning money, probably by the weekend. But he’d rather be funded you and his dad and you’d rather he be funded by the taxpayer.

No one gets a medal for their child not being a criminal btw. That’s about the lowest possible bar for success I can imagine.

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 17:38

Surely his dad just tells the council that ds is still living away from home and at this stage he doesn’t actually know what his plans are and may not even move back?

Sirzy · 31/05/2024 17:39

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:34

It's definately had some benefit bashing as you may remember one poster saying she's working to find others knock the ones making it a lifestyle choice not people just needing a little help whilst they find a job.

It’s not benefit bashing. It’s bashing the mentality that benefits can be used as a paid holiday for a young person after Uni. That’s not what the system is for.

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