To push ds into claiming

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Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

Well mumsnet is full of keyboard warriors who delight in taking somebody down seen it happen alot on here doesn't always mean the op is wrong.

His work coach can help with that. It’s not just the money it’s the additional support available.

It’s within their regulations for him to claim.

How long will it take to format a cv with no work experience on it, anyway? Can’t he just leave a gap for ‘2:1’?

He has work experience.
He will have had health setting experience plus he’s had work such as festivals at least.

OP I had to send dozens and dozens of job applications to find my first job and I was paying my rent thanks to working in a pub. Its not a competition of who has it worse and it is a difficult job market right now but claiming UC is basically telling your DS that he can take the easy way out while he cruises trying to find a job. You are robbing him of his drive and urgency, and I see the harm in this. Now I assume you have a better understanding of your and his situation and ultimately it is your choice, just my humble opinion reading your posts.

Your post is why I came on here to ask if I should push him into claiming as I was on the same thinking pattern as you.

Was it too much to ask for constructive advice rather than ds been labelled lazy and me as a failure.

The constructive advice is for your son to get a job, however temporary/casual, whilst he applies for a more career-based role in his industry. NOT claim benefits so he has money for drinking/socialising/takeaways/hobbies etc over the summer.

As his parent, you shouldn't have needed this spelling out.

There was no other way it was going to go tbh. It’s a hot political topic.

So you support healthy young adults claiming off taxpayers. There is no magic money tree, it's people like me working to pay for this nonsense. What a joke.

There was constructive advice. Your son needs to get a job.

i support that people can claim what support is put in place.

The magic money tree had enough money for pay rises for mps, for subsidised parliament bars, for expenses.

I would prefer that those things don’t get funded by tax payers. But a short term support with job seeking advice - yes I do.

There is a job seeking element of UC, which is what OP is asking about.
There is nothing wrong at all with claiming this whilst job hunting (and the Job Centre will be making him look for work).
OP's son might get lucky and get a job fast, and if he does not, he has money for food, clothing, and to take the pressure off of his mum.

Constructive advice with a large dose of critism lol

I agree with you regarding the subsidised bars, but MPs get paid very little for the responsibilities they hold. If we want a parliament that is open to everyone and attracts the best and brightest (not the current shower of entitled idiots) then the salaries need to be commensurate with what’s expected of them.

In no other industry would someone in charge of budgets of billions be barely breaking 6 figures.

Expenses need to be properly scrutinised but it’s fair to allow them - no one else is expected to cover the cost of doing business personally, especially if they have 2 places of work that could be hundreds of miles apart.

But I don’t disagree that if someone is entitled to benefits, they should claim them. I actually really rue that it’s become so much harder to claim the dole - it’s had a terrible effect on creative industries. Musicians, artists, writers could at one point live cheaply in squats and on their dole money whilst they honed their art enough to make it pay (or realise it never would so they needed to get a job). None of that happens anymore, and our culture is poorer for it.

OP, your son has done a good degree with excellent job prospects and he’s got 50+ years of work ahead of him, likely at least partially in the NHS. Why shouldn’t he have a summer of fun before knuckling down and probably paying more tax than most of us on here.

Or he could get a young person’s visa and head off to Australia or Canada to work there. He’ll get paid more and probably be valued better.

Constructive advice with a large dose of critism lol

Well to be fair, you did post in AIBU

I've been here for years and have never been that brave.

He has actually mentioned wanting to work in Australia reckons if Rishi gets back in he's off lol

Yep your risking your sanity posting on here lol

Yep your risking your sanity posting on here lol

It is just AIBU though usually. There are some lovely and very supportive sections on MN. This bit just isn't one of them

Think you’ve handled it well tbh with the tsunami of negative responses!

Thanks

Exactly, I don't think you are wrong. Ultimately he's finished university, his student finance isn't meant to cover him any further, you and his father can't afford to support him any more, so he needs his own income. He can do that however he wants. Assuming he's under 25 and not paying any rent he'll only get £311.68 a month to cover his share of the bills wherever he's living and to buy his own food etc. They'll cut that money if he doesn't prove he's looking for work.

So, ultimately, your family can seriously struggle trying to find money to help him survive until he gets work or he puts in a UC claim that should give him that pittance to help him survive while the jobcentre will also push him very hard to get a job ASAP.

It might feel like the whole of MN against one person. But the poll shows a completely different story to the comments. It seems 79% of MN think you aren't being unreasonable, it's just the 21% seem to be more likely to express their opinions.

I hope whatever your hard working son does, his results are good and that his future is bright.

It might feel like the whole of MN against one person. But the poll shows a completely different story to the comments. It seems 79% of MN think you aren't being unreasonable, it's just the 21% seem to be more likely to express their opinions.
I hadn’t noticed how one sided the poll was in favour of claiming 😮

Sorry you had to endure such a tirade of bullshit from the not-so-silent minority, OP.

Thank you

This is the real issue people should be up in arms about - idiot Tories have made the country so unappealing that our future healthcare workers are training here, subsidised by our taxes (although not as much as they once were), and then heading off to be treated better in other countries. This is much more of an issue than students claiming a bit of UC. But of course the narrative needs to be about scrounges and the undeserving poor to keep us from interrogating policy too closely.