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To push ds into claiming

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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Overthebow · 31/05/2024 17:00

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:55

I'm not aware of those

You’re not aware of any grad schemes? At all? There’s literally hundreds. His uni should have told him about some but usually students also research themselves and make connections during their degrees, do internships etc. the big ones like civil service often have applications in the autumn the year before but there’s lots of applications throughout the year. Most students apply to loads as they aren’t all degree specific. It’s a bit late now though to be honest.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

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Strictlymad · 31/05/2024 17:03

No he shouldn’t be applying for uc, he should be applying for job seekers allowance. And treat job hunting like a full time job, shop, bar, pot washing at restaurant. Not sitting about waiting for results. Fwiw when he applies for his degree job the prospective employer will like that that he’s made use of the time, not sat waiting.

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:03

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

If you are supporting him being unemployed and only applying for jobs in his field then you should carry on paying for it. If you can’t afford it he gets a job like any other adult who likes food.

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 17:04

He should know roughly what his results will be unless he was on a very marginal %. It’s usually not a big surprise on results day.

Uncooperativefingers · 31/05/2024 17:04

What is his field? Chances are a MNetter can offer some good career advice.

I think you need to make it clear doing nothing for the next 3 months is not an option

RedHelenB · 31/05/2024 17:04

No harm in applying for UC and applying for jobs.

Uncooperativefingers · 31/05/2024 17:04

And stop giving him money each month

Sirzy · 31/05/2024 17:04

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:56

Ds doesn't expect to be kept he does intend to work meaning I trust him to not take advantage.

But he is taking advantage if he is expecting you to fund him doing nothing all summer.

he needs to be looking for work now, even if it’s something temporary. Both parents need to be clear than funding has stopped now his course has.

ilovesooty · 31/05/2024 17:04

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

Why hasn't he done this stuff ages ago?

Byronada · 31/05/2024 17:05

No wonder this country is in a mess. People thinking that those perfectly capable of working should just be given benefits. It's an absolute joke and mugs like me are paying for it.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 31/05/2024 17:05

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

So he wants to loaf about for 3 months at his parent's expense?

I know what I'd be saying to my sons if they thought this was ok.

Not that they would, they worked all through uni to bring a bit of money in as well as studying hard.

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 17:05

What is his degree/field?

TigerRag · 31/05/2024 17:05

Strictlymad · 31/05/2024 17:03

No he shouldn’t be applying for uc, he should be applying for job seekers allowance. And treat job hunting like a full time job, shop, bar, pot washing at restaurant. Not sitting about waiting for results. Fwiw when he applies for his degree job the prospective employer will like that that he’s made use of the time, not sat waiting.

He can only get contributions based JSA if he meets the criteria. UC replaced income based JSA

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 17:06

Byronada · 31/05/2024 17:05

No wonder this country is in a mess. People thinking that those perfectly capable of working should just be given benefits. It's an absolute joke and mugs like me are paying for it.

Yep, it shouldn’t even be an option.

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 17:06

Stop giving him money. He is an adult, he can claim JSA.

Hermittrismegistus · 31/05/2024 17:06

Is this a windup?

MultiplaLight · 31/05/2024 17:07

I'd be worried he hasn't already got a job to be honest.

Sounds like he's mugging you hard.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:07

Byronada · 31/05/2024 17:05

No wonder this country is in a mess. People thinking that those perfectly capable of working should just be given benefits. It's an absolute joke and mugs like me are paying for it.

That's not what this is about it's about ds having some money whilst he sorts his career not a lifestyle choice

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amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 17:07

He can get a bar job to tide him over. Or work in a cafe.

like literally every single friend of mine did a decade ago whilst waiting to get a degree related job. Although tbf a lot of us had thought ahead and had something in the pipeline.

this is not what benefits are for!!!!!

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 17:08

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:07

That's not what this is about it's about ds having some money whilst he sorts his career not a lifestyle choice

He can get a job tomorrow to have some money, not benefits.

DishOfLeaves · 31/05/2024 17:08

Yes to waiting for his results before applying for a job in his field at this point but also he can get any job he can in the meantime. This whole prepare your CV is bullshit, he wants the summer off and for you to fund it but doesn't want to tell you that. I suggest you cut his money to the tune of the increased council tax amount his Dad is getting charged. He is no longer considered a student so of course a single parent will be charged the full rate.

Sunnysummer24 · 31/05/2024 17:08

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

He is already about 6 months behind in this. He needs to get his finger out and get kind of job because at the moment is isn’t going to look very attractive on the jobs market.

flamebrick · 31/05/2024 17:08

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

Is he in touch with his university careers service? Unfortunately I think this is quite an outdated job-hunting approach in most fields. Many of the big grad employers require applicants to use their own template and don't even take CVs these days. As Overthebow says, he will know roughly what he'll get in terms of results already, even if it is borderline. And even if he genuinely has no clue, many schemes don't have a minimum grade requirement — why doesn't he apply for those?

rwalker · 31/05/2024 17:08

You don’t need to push him to claim anything
what you need to do is stop giving him money
I can’t see any reason why he couldn’t get a job to tide him over anything

getting a job can be a very long process you’ll be bank rolling him for months

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