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To push ds into claiming

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:47

rwalker · 02/06/2024 13:55

I think people don’t realise he won’t just get money for turning up
they’ll a sign him job coach he will have to apply for things or the will just stop any money they were giving him

it’s that much of a pain I would suspect it would stir him into action

Yes people think it's a easy ride on benefits it's no sail in the park you have to keep attending meetings and benefits are only a last resort if he can't find a job I only mentioned should he claim now in case he has difficulties getting a job. My ds never mentioned it and he is on about giving us money back when he starts earning he is a decent lad not a benefit sponger like people are suggesting.

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 02/06/2024 15:49

@Lacky301 encourage him to see the careers service whilst still in uni town. They can help with a plan.

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:50

I feel that my post has been misunderstood I asked this question as claiming benefits is something we have never done. It seems to have turned into something else which wasn't the intention and ultimately ended with me been called a failure and ds a lazy sod.

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Ohnobackagain · 02/06/2024 15:51

@Lacky301 ask to have the thread deleted

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:54

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 02/06/2024 15:33

thunk you’re getting a hard time op.

I encouraged my dd to claim UC whilst seeking work after graduation. She applied for everything. Incl cleaning but with no luck.

Dwp were great with her and found her a work placement for a few weeks and as a result she got a job which she loves.

The job market is quite tough rn. Employees want a lot for min wage.

What I would say is if your dad is in student accommodation then claiming UC complicates council tax exemption.

Your ds should get in touch with uni careers esp whilst he is in uni town. They can help
him with cv, applications and volunteering relevant work experience. Is it physio he wants to do?

Yes ds did apply for jobs during his time at uni without success so he stopped eventually. I have seen that others have had the same problem as in a uni town there is alot of competition.

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 02/06/2024 15:56

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:54

Yes ds did apply for jobs during his time at uni without success so he stopped eventually. I have seen that others have had the same problem as in a uni town there is alot of competition.

Yes it’s harder than expected.

I encouraged dd to take on volunteering roles, speak to uni careers and eventually apply for UC. It all helped.

Ikeaismyhappyplace · 02/06/2024 15:57

I would make an appointment at the job centre regarding universal credit, not so much for the money, although he is entitled to help whilst looking for a job, but for the support and advice they provide.

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:58

Ohnobackagain · 02/06/2024 15:51

@Lacky301 ask to have the thread deleted

I don't think mumsnett delete threads anymore they just tell you to turn off notifications

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Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:58

Ikeaismyhappyplace · 02/06/2024 15:57

I would make an appointment at the job centre regarding universal credit, not so much for the money, although he is entitled to help whilst looking for a job, but for the support and advice they provide.

They are useless unless your on benefits

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Ikeaismyhappyplace · 02/06/2024 15:59

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:58

They are useless unless your on benefits

That’s a shame that you’ve had that experience, my son must have been lucky with his work coach.

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 16:01

Ikeaismyhappyplace · 02/06/2024 15:59

That’s a shame that you’ve had that experience, my son must have been lucky with his work coach.

Was he on benefits

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Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 16:02

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 16:01

Was he on benefits

Sorry I misunderstood you mean if he claims he will get help to find a job.

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 02/06/2024 16:03

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:58

They are useless unless your on benefits

By registering he would get benefits

Ikeaismyhappyplace · 02/06/2024 16:06

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 16:01

Was he on benefits

No he wasn’t. He had just finished college and hadn’t had any luck to start with. He isn’t the most confident so that’s probably why. I hope your son gets on ok with everything.

Beautiful3 · 02/06/2024 16:14

If he is entitled to it, then yes he should apply. However they do ask for proof you've applied for 2 jobs per week. You have to be available for interviews in the job centre too.

CaribouCarafe · 02/06/2024 17:14

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:54

Yes ds did apply for jobs during his time at uni without success so he stopped eventually. I have seen that others have had the same problem as in a uni town there is alot of competition.

He could be applying anywhere in the country, rather than constraining himself to just his uni town and home town - especially if competition is fierce and he's unsure as to whether he's passed or not

CHEESEY13 · 02/06/2024 17:24

He needs to claim, at least for the short term, but as for finding employment I'm afraid the JobCentre is the last place to get a job! They're not called JokeCentres for nothing.
Pure box ticking exercises.

CHEESEY13 · 02/06/2024 17:26

Ps: the main reason he needs to claim is so he'll qualify for National Insurance contributions - or there will be a gap in his State Pension.

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 17:27

CHEESEY13 · 02/06/2024 17:26

Ps: the main reason he needs to claim is so he'll qualify for National Insurance contributions - or there will be a gap in his State Pension.

But many years to make it up I'm still paying contributions despite having now paid full stamp

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CaribouCarafe · 02/06/2024 17:41

Unless he's over 30 years old, the small gap in NI from unemployment would be insignificant. Plus he could pay NI from getting a job rather than UC. It's not really an excuse

Hairyfairy01 · 02/06/2024 17:49

OP, you are ignoring all of the posters who are asking if you are sure he is due to pass his course? Have you asked him? Is he ok?

Iaskedyouthrice · 02/06/2024 17:51

I dont think he's work shy, bloody hell we all used to sign on back in the day between jobs, studies etc 😁 suppose its a different world now though. Top tip for him though @Lacky301 or any other parents of students out there, tell him to look on his local councils jobs page, there are nearly always casual cleaning jobs on there. I cleaned my local town hall every tea time for 2 hours while I was at college. Best days of my life! Hours are always early morning or early evening. Payed me better than my mates who worked all night in a bar back then. Though that's probably changed too.

VeneziaJ · 02/06/2024 17:51

Strictlymad · 31/05/2024 17:03

No he shouldn’t be applying for uc, he should be applying for job seekers allowance. And treat job hunting like a full time job, shop, bar, pot washing at restaurant. Not sitting about waiting for results. Fwiw when he applies for his degree job the prospective employer will like that that he’s made use of the time, not sat waiting.

Job seekers (income based) is now subsumed in to UC the only Job Seekers is the contribution based one (he wont have the necessary NI ).

Otherstories2002 · 02/06/2024 18:07

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 15:54

Yes ds did apply for jobs during his time at uni without success so he stopped eventually. I have seen that others have had the same problem as in a uni town there is alot of competition.

Then he needs to move home and start looking there.

There are endless bar jobs or temporary work.

the only reason anyone is unemployed right now is choice.

Otherstories2002 · 02/06/2024 18:08

Iaskedyouthrice · 02/06/2024 17:51

I dont think he's work shy, bloody hell we all used to sign on back in the day between jobs, studies etc 😁 suppose its a different world now though. Top tip for him though @Lacky301 or any other parents of students out there, tell him to look on his local councils jobs page, there are nearly always casual cleaning jobs on there. I cleaned my local town hall every tea time for 2 hours while I was at college. Best days of my life! Hours are always early morning or early evening. Payed me better than my mates who worked all night in a bar back then. Though that's probably changed too.

No we did not. Never claimed a penny in benefits.