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In laws won’t help with childcare.

449 replies

WhatsMyUsername89 · 28/05/2024 21:59

Can’t work out if I’m sounding like an entitled little cow or if I’m actually in the right.

DC is 2 years old & has recently broken her ankle.

current childcare arrangement is 1 day my DP, 1 day in laws & 1.5 day nursery.

due to this ankle break nursery have said she can come in, but only if she’s not requiring regular Calpol. She’s absolutely fine, but is still needing some Calpol & is fine once she’s had the Calpol.

my parents work but have reduced to 4 days per week to have DD one day.

Father in law doesn’t work, never has & mother in law WFH. So when they have DD MIL is working upstairs & FIL is with DD.

We are struggling with childcare but in laws have made it very clear they don’t want to help out. MIL is on leave this week; & has said “ we’re going XYZ on Fridays” (day DD is in nursery).

i asked if they could help out with childcare and they said “well I guess we don’t have a choice.” But then 2hrs later said they had instead decided to book something so couldn’t.

myself & DH have had quite a bit of time off juggling this ankle break.

I understand that DD isn’t in laws responsibility but I just feel pissed off they won’t help. It’s not for bloody ever!!!!

OP posts:
WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:25

FellowshipOfTheBing · 29/05/2024 08:01

OP I don't usually AS but some comments in the thread...

So what has changed since

-Jan when you were going to go NC with your DPs as they showed so little interest in your child but your PIL were amazing

-Feb when neither set of grandparents worked but none were willing to do any childcare for you

-Oct when you were considering moving abroad as you had no support and your child's father was in prison for c10 years

Threads expecting childcare from grandparents are notoriously goady but drive a lot of traffic...

This is the thing with the internet, things are not always as they seem.

Not all these posts are mine; some are posted on behalf of friends. For one example my DH is obviously not in prison for 10yrs as he’s currently helping out with our DD while she has a broken.

OP posts:
bananaramaterry · 29/05/2024 08:25

FellowshipOfTheBing · 29/05/2024 08:01

OP I don't usually AS but some comments in the thread...

So what has changed since

-Jan when you were going to go NC with your DPs as they showed so little interest in your child but your PIL were amazing

-Feb when neither set of grandparents worked but none were willing to do any childcare for you

-Oct when you were considering moving abroad as you had no support and your child's father was in prison for c10 years

Threads expecting childcare from grandparents are notoriously goady but drive a lot of traffic...

Well that's a spin!

sleeppleasesoon · 29/05/2024 08:25

Tiramisoo · 28/05/2024 22:09

You’re not being unreasonable. It’s just a day and it’s their granddaughter. Lots of people on Mumsnet have a weird complex about not relying on family, when it’s just bitterness behind it really. You should be able to count on them for this one occasion. Not surprised you feel disappointed.

This

Runsyd · 29/05/2024 08:26

Tiramisoo · 28/05/2024 22:09

You’re not being unreasonable. It’s just a day and it’s their granddaughter. Lots of people on Mumsnet have a weird complex about not relying on family, when it’s just bitterness behind it really. You should be able to count on them for this one occasion. Not surprised you feel disappointed.

Lots of people on MN are older women who are grandparents. Not wanting to have their time appropriated by other people is not bitterness.

Thomasina79 · 29/05/2024 08:26

Breaking an ankle is not trivial and a person needs a lot of care. Perhaps they are worried about this? I broke mine some years ago and I am an adult, but was pretty dependent on my DH to look after me. I could not use crutches and had to get a wheelchair. Also it was very painful. I think the nursery are being unreasonable about this, rather than your in laws.

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:26

CelesteCunningham · 29/05/2024 07:38

OP this is puzzling me but it's not particularly relevant so no need to answer if you don't want to, but just wondering how you've already burned through 11 days of leave between you when you only need to cover 1.5 days? If it was just to cover the nursery days that would nearly cover the whole period. Was she in hospital at the start?

When DD first hurt herself she was in a bit of pain so we agreed with both GP’s that it’s probably best she stays home with myself/DH! We all didn’t feel comfortable with GP having her as she needed her parents

OP posts:
bananaramaterry · 29/05/2024 08:27

@WhatsMyUsername89 why if your DOs have gone down to four days a week, does it not cover the lost nursery days?

Yousay55 · 29/05/2024 08:29

I understand that grandparents don’t have to help, it’s not their responsibility etc, but when I’m a grandparent (one day hopefully) I can’t wait to help!
It works the other way too. Will they expect you to help in their old age? I think families should support each other if they can. It’s great that yours do help but I can see in this situation you need a little more support.

Hateliars34 · 29/05/2024 08:30

Charlie2121 · 28/05/2024 23:11

Did you not think of this before having children?

It seems a very reckless way to live and was bound to end in trouble at some point.

This. What would they do if their parents suddenly moved away/became unwell/etc?

It's a shame they haven't offered to help, as it would have been lovely since FIL could definitely do it. But it's not wrong for them not to and young kids are exhausting.

If it were me, I'd take AL this coming Friday and then expect DC wouldn't keep needing calpol the following weeks. A fracture shouldn't hurt for that long! I'd go back to the GP too. It's not good to have so much paracetamol.

I'd then say to nursery I cannot pay them when there's no good reason she can't attend and find a child minder. This is what a lot of parents with no family help have to do, OP. I do hope you appreciate the fortunate situation you are in.

bananaramaterry · 29/05/2024 08:31

Yousay55 · 29/05/2024 08:29

I understand that grandparents don’t have to help, it’s not their responsibility etc, but when I’m a grandparent (one day hopefully) I can’t wait to help!
It works the other way too. Will they expect you to help in their old age? I think families should support each other if they can. It’s great that yours do help but I can see in this situation you need a little more support.

They are helping, every week.

Her DPs have gone down to four days.

Her MIL is on annual leave and wants to go away for the weekend, hardly a big ask?

PTAProblems · 29/05/2024 08:32

@WhatsMyUsername89 did you see my post about whether nursery would let you or a grandparent go in to give her calpol? Would that be an option?

Joleyne · 29/05/2024 08:33

I'm surprised the nursery can't make an exception for once. Can you go back to them?
Most childminders would have no problem accepting her, given the circumstances, and I would think a fair few nurseries would also be flexible.

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:34

PTAProblems · 29/05/2024 08:32

@WhatsMyUsername89 did you see my post about whether nursery would let you or a grandparent go in to give her calpol? Would that be an option?

Sorry; nursery will administer Calpol, but once any child has had Calpol they have to go home. So it doesn’t matter if we were to come in, they’d still need him to go home because of the policy.

OP posts:
Flickersy · 29/05/2024 08:35

Runsyd · 29/05/2024 08:26

Lots of people on MN are older women who are grandparents. Not wanting to have their time appropriated by other people is not bitterness.

This is really callous language to use when talking about an injured family member.

When my dad lost his mobility for a month thanks to medication, we didn't consider helping out as "having our time appropriated". He was our dad, why wouldn't we help? My aunt, uncle, neighbour and even a couple of his friends would come and sit with him too on the odd day so mum could go to work. She was still doing more of the care than anyone else.

Per this thread, we should have told mum to sling her hook and not have the audacity to appropriate our time...

KickHimInTheCrotch · 29/05/2024 08:37

Sorry if it's already been said but she's not going to need calpole every 4 hours for the next six weeks. Can you reduce her nursery down to half days and dose her up before drop off? That way you and the grandparents only need to cover half days? She'll be fine from 8-12 on one dose of calpol.

PTAProblems · 29/05/2024 08:37

@WhatsMyUsername89 that's very annoying of the nursery. Hope you find a solution to get you through the next few weeks

Yousay55 · 29/05/2024 08:38

@bananaramaterry

Yes, I wrote that it’s good that they help, but with a toddler with a broken ankle, they need a little more help.
Grandparents are absolutely entitled to go away on last minute trip & op is also allowed to feel fed up.

Dakotabluebell · 29/05/2024 08:41

You don't know how lucky you are to have so much help.

You'll have to take unpaid leave like every other parent who isn't lucky enough to have grandparents looking after their child on the regular.

Scruffily · 29/05/2024 08:43

PostMenPatWithACat · 28/05/2024 22:06

So, you get a free day of childcare from your parents and your in-laws every week. That is very fortunate.

Why can't you or yiur dh arrange to wfh when dd is at nursery this week and possibly next? Alternatively, can you or dh take a day of unpaid leave to deal with this.

I'm sorry op but yiu are being very entitled when you already get a huge amount of help. I'm still reeling at your parents dropping a dat each to cover childcare for you. Personally I'd have kept working and paid for a day of nursery for you. I would not commit to regular full on child care.

Very weird to assume everyone can just work from home if they choose to.

I'm with you, OP, I don't understand why supposedly loving grandparents who allegedly want to see more of their grandchild can't help out in this one emergency. I wouldn't hesitate if I were them.

Runsyd · 29/05/2024 08:43

Flickersy · 29/05/2024 08:35

This is really callous language to use when talking about an injured family member.

When my dad lost his mobility for a month thanks to medication, we didn't consider helping out as "having our time appropriated". He was our dad, why wouldn't we help? My aunt, uncle, neighbour and even a couple of his friends would come and sit with him too on the odd day so mum could go to work. She was still doing more of the care than anyone else.

Per this thread, we should have told mum to sling her hook and not have the audacity to appropriate our time...

Callous? Are you okay?

I was responding to the poster who called people who don't want to do regular childcare bitter, no need for you to be triggered by it.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 29/05/2024 08:43

I can’t imagine not helping out with dgc. I’ve done it around work in the past.
Hope your dd is out of plaster soon, can’t be nice for such a young child.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 29/05/2024 08:47

Mumsnet is so weird about childcare and grandparents. My mum never had any support from anyone when we were young but still goes out of her way to help me and my sibling because we are family and we want to help. I don't think you are entitled at all, I find this attitude bizarre and strangely changes when they need care as they get older and rely on you more (I've seen this a few times now).

bananaramaterry · 29/05/2024 08:47

Yousay55 · 29/05/2024 08:38

@bananaramaterry

Yes, I wrote that it’s good that they help, but with a toddler with a broken ankle, they need a little more help.
Grandparents are absolutely entitled to go away on last minute trip & op is also allowed to feel fed up.

But she's not allowed to be ungrateful.

Which she is!

Flickersy · 29/05/2024 08:49

Runsyd · 29/05/2024 08:43

Callous? Are you okay?

I was responding to the poster who called people who don't want to do regular childcare bitter, no need for you to be triggered by it.

Neither this thread nor the post you responded to was about regular childcare. It's about a temporary need for more help as the child is injured.

And yes, "appropriating their time" is a really callous way to talk about a grandparent helping out with an injured grandchild (or any other close relative). Presumably these are people who love and care for each other.

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 29/05/2024 08:49

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:25

This is the thing with the internet, things are not always as they seem.

Not all these posts are mine; some are posted on behalf of friends. For one example my DH is obviously not in prison for 10yrs as he’s currently helping out with our DD while she has a broken.

So why not do it for a friend. I call BS.

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