To not make my son have his vaccine?

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Hello all
So my 13 year old (ADHD and Autistic) was recently supposed to have his HPV vaccine in school. He point blank refused so it was rescheduled for the may half term at the local clinic. However, he is still very much refusing to have the vaccine. I've explained what its for and how serious cancer is (not that he needs me to tbh). But he is so stubborn its unreal. How would other parents deal with this? Both my children have always been up to date on their vaccines and I want him to take his health seriously. That being said it is his body and I cant physically force him.

We get a prescription for those numbing plasters before he has an appointment. I also schedule it for the day when he has his most disliked subjects at school. Then I tell him he needs to have it done and why, remind him of other vaccinations he's had and that it went ok. Then he tries to bargain that if he has it done he gets the day of school. I answer that we'll discuss that afterwards and that he needs to be brave and let the doctor give it to him without making a fuss. If he doesn't let the doctor do it, he's got to go straight back to school. Then once it's done, I let him have the rest of the day off.

Same age as your DS, has been pinned down before, but he's too big and strong now and the doctor would was very clear he had to agree to having it done.

Even if that were to be true (which someone else has addressed), it still leaves women at risk if a male is having unprotected intimate moments.

Is there anything you can bribe him with?

Provide as much appropriate information as you can.
Ask the GP if they have anyone available to talk with him that understands autism.
Look into what could be stopping him. Is it physical touch, is it the unknown, is it a communication or understanding thing. Don’t assume and don’t put words into his mouth.

Honestly HPV in a boy I would be tempted to leave it.
I am very much in favour of universal HPV vaccination but one reason universal vaccination coverage is important is to protect those that can't be vaccinated.
In a few years hopefully HPV will be at very low levels and his risk will be low.

The only issue is setting a precedent and making it harder for any future jabs

Do you mean intimate moments the woman hasn't consented to? Otherwise, she can choose to be vaccinated herself should she wish, and choose who she wants to sleep with. Her body, her choice.

My eldest adhder missed school hpv and now is refusing point blank. Iv explained and the reasonings and its a big no. Fine his choice I say though gritted teeth (evening though its really pissing me off)

There's no reason why he couldn't reconsider in a few years if he's not keen to have it now. As long as it's before he's sexually active it won't make a difference. Even a bit after if herd immunity is at play.

Hmm my brother had head/cancer through HPV and I had cervical cancer.

Maybe our family isn't good at clearing the virus. The teenage girls in family all had the jab but at the time my nephew was a year too old for the age group they started giving to boys. My brother paid nearly £400 to get him jabbed privately

Have you talked to him about the disease it prevents ? Maybe show him pictures. Although, it's good at least there will be high immunity in others his age

What rubbish.

Women can protect themselves by having the vaccine and not having unprotected sex (or not until they have been sti checked).

I believe the vaccine is only available to women 40 and under.

Women over 40 will have to be aware and protect themselves in other ways.

There is no need to be having unprotected sex with a man who’s STI status you don’t know. It just isn’t a good idea.

Obviously some women are unvaccinated and are raped- but I don’t think “you had better have this vaccine in case you ever rape someone and pass on HPV” is an argument the op will use.

Same with my dd. She has a medical condition, which is triggered by anything medical so it’s impossible for her to have injections, blood tests etc.

Both my children have only had 1 jab each when they was toddlers that was it never had any more after that.
Ive never had any myself.

Why?

I read on the WHO website that one vaccine is enough

Condoms dont protect against this one. Just so you know.

My dd and ds both refused their teenage vaccinations as they have autism and are needle phobic. I had to respect their decision

Gillick competency and Fraser guidelines came into law in 1985, as per this link.

https://learning.nspcc.org.uk/child-protection-system/gillick-competence-fraser-guidelines#:~:text=As%20cited%20in%20Children's%20Legal,)%20%5B1986%5D%20AC%20112.

Given the ASD, I'd provide a shedload of materials on exactly why it's neccessary. Demand he demonstrates he read and understood it as a condition of your (temporary, but don't tell him that) backing off. Then step back and periodically bring up the topic (every few weeks). Only once you notice signs of second thoughts offer inducements in form of something he REALLY wants. It'll happen within a year.

The trick is to allow his cognitive capabilities to bypass the fight or flight response, which is amplified in ASD.

And today we're walking through hospitals filled with posters for warning signs of measles again. The deaths of children from that will be on hands of people like you.

They are on the rise and no longer considered rare. My husband is only 53 and is currently undergoing treatment for throat cancer caused by hpv. It is incredibly brutal treatment to try and cure. Please get the vaccine

I hope his treatment is successful . I have a family member who had throat cancer caused by HPV. The treatment truly is brutal but she has made a complete recovery.