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I’m a middle-aged widow. I don’t want your husband

483 replies

CousinBette · 26/05/2024 16:01

…so you know, I could still be invited to the dinner parties and weekends away that I was invited to before the husband died… Instead, it’s just meeting the woman in the couple for coffee until we are all widows together in twenty years time.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Shiningout · 26/05/2024 18:18

I lost two friends when I split with my ex. Literally overnight they stopped the group chat and just started chatting and meeting up together. Was a real shit time for me anyway without feeling like a social outcast. I dunno why it happened but I think they felt uncomfortable with the dynamic when I was single.

ManchesterGirl2 · 26/05/2024 18:18

Seen two posts recently about only wanting to socialise with "couple friends", it's a horrible attitude.

Sorry OP, I hope you find better friends.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 26/05/2024 18:19

LoveStories · 26/05/2024 18:13

In fairness, though, that's ridiculously presumptuous -- 'Oh, we'd better not invited Poor Sad Sarah, in case she's driven mad by the sight of me and Doughy Dave ignoring one another over the tiramisu!'

🤣🤣

CampervanKween · 26/05/2024 18:19

My single female friends confirm it definitely is a thing. I've never been like that, but a lot of women are apparently. More a failing on their husband and the relationship in general though really than any reflection on the single (for whatever reason) woman.

GrumpyPanda · 26/05/2024 18:23

Happyinarcon · 26/05/2024 16:24

Isn’t this a good thing? I’m married but only ever spend time with my friends separately. I don’t want to socialise with their husbands.

Maybe OP detests coffee and sweet stuff and really enjoys both dinner parties and weekend trips? So patronising of you.

Redcrayons · 26/05/2024 18:26

Biotinbooster · 26/05/2024 18:17

It's not that you want the husbands...

It's that the husbands want YOU.

I'm not a seductress, Ok looking. Get plenty of reasonable male attention if I get out there a bit.

I don't hang out in clubbing or some high-stakes glamorous environment.

The type of married guy who casually puts out feelers or tries it on is generally very "average" as well. They don't look like sleazes, or have loads of money.

And often it is just about proximity and perceived availability. Divorced? Widow? New to town? Must be UP FOR IT.

I don't even think there's any special connection or lots of time together..just that I'm single, no man, so I must be desperate or "available". I wouldn't even go out with them if they were unmarried!

Especially if you're seen as lower status and people blame the woman always for any problems....so many men try to set up situations where they can claim the woman is chasing after them or it's a mutual thing, and they know their wives will blame the woman.

It's odd because people talk about Tinder culture being sleazy, but this is just social dynamics unfortunately and has been for a long time.

I'm wary now as I get older to put boundaries in interactions with partnered up guys...no ambiguity or 1-1 chats. I've noticed married guys often try to "fish" for a friendship or start talking about personal issues....I shut them down.

There's social spaces I can go into where being a single woman is unremarkable so I use those..much more peaceful!

It’s not random sleazy married men though. Agree there’s plenty of them.

they’re friends, people I’ve known for years and years. Went to each others weddings, kids christenings, birthdays.

Suddenly I’m relegated to once in a blue moon ‘girls night’. I’d like to think my friends know that I’m not trying to steal their husbands.

MissyB1 · 26/05/2024 18:30

I can imagine this happening to me. At the moment we socialise with couples that we've known for years, but if I ended up widowed I'm not convinced I would see much of those couples anymore.

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 26/05/2024 18:34

Oh god yes. I became single at 34. I'm now 41, working out how many cats are an acceptable number and despite dalliances with FWB have zero interest in any bloke, especially someone else's.

That didn't stop Jeff inviting me for coffee and catch up at his house. I accepted and said I couldn't wait to meet Samantha his fiance, he replied saying she was away for the weekend, and it would be best if we kept it between us as she wouldn't understand. I declined the coffee.

The absolute worst single experience I had, I was invited to an evening wedding reception. Literally only knew the bride and groom, dutifully went along with my then 5 year old DD. As soon as we arrived she spotted the B&Gs son and legged it off to sweet cart, dance floor, bubble machine. I was utterly alone and even though a few blokes tried to be polite, the women with them grabbed them possessively and glared at me, not one said a friendly word to me, I sat at a table for 8 all on my own; not one woman approached and said anything nice. I tried in the queue for the food and at the bar to chat to a few women, but they pretty much brushed me off. I was at a wedding on my own, I wasn't planning on getting down and dirty with anyone's fella let alone right in front of anyone. I'm a social bean anyway, but that night was the worst single night of my life and I vowed to never ever do that to any woman on her own at any event. (Or anyone for that matter!).

Rosscameasdoody · 26/05/2024 18:35

I was widowed a few years ago. I noticed a definite change in the attitudes of even close friends and I was really hurt when I found out about social events that I would previously have been invited to. Let it go OP. Until people experience for themselves the pain of losing a partner they can’t possibly understand that a whole way of life is lost as well, and that the last thing on a widows’ mind is a ‘replacement’.

Onelifeonly22 · 26/05/2024 18:37

I don’t think it’s always such a suspicious reason (though impact the same on the single person) - sometimes the guy wants other guys there which often means couples. I always make a point of inviting single people as I hated that when I was single this happened as I missed mixed company - but I also find some women decline as they don’t like being the only person not in a couple (but always best to ask and let them choose). I’m sorry this is your experience.

blacksax · 26/05/2024 18:37

spov · 26/05/2024 16:10

You might not want their husbands, but I believe that what generally happens is that their husbands want you. Lots of posters have written about it on here.

I'm inclined to agree. There are too many men out there who think "Ooh, divorcee, widow, single... must be desperate for it!!".

After I split from exH I had several of my friends' other halves trying their luck. Sickening really, that they would think that not only would I jump at the chance of a quick fumble with a man in a relationship, but that I would betray my friend as well.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 26/05/2024 18:39

Once I got divorced I was never invited to a dinner party again. ( I know, it was the thing then! )
Not even by my sister. Couples seem to think single women have the plague.

BarHumbugs · 26/05/2024 18:40

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 26/05/2024 16:02

I'm a single mum
I definitely don't want your husband!

Never understood why people thought I'd want their husband. Any man that will abandon his family to take up with someone else's isn't the sort of man I'd bank on to be loyal!

Mockingjay123 · 26/05/2024 18:42

I doubt anyone is assuming you ‘want their husband’ or are viewing you as a threat. Much more likely that they are thinking you won’t want to be a third wheel.

EmilyTheCriminal · 26/05/2024 18:44

This happened to my Mum when she and my Dad split up.

Her married friends just suddenly ditched her.

She definitely was not interested in any of their husbands!

OldTinHat · 26/05/2024 18:46

Hahaha, some things never change, do they?!

I was the first in a large group of friends to get divorced. You'd think I had the plague, I got dropped from everything. One friend even tried to hide when she saw me in a supermarket!

Over the next few years, all of those friends found themselves divorced too. They all got back in touch. I'd moved on and had real friends by then.

itsmylife7 · 26/05/2024 18:48

Maybe they don't trust their husbands ??

saraclara · 26/05/2024 18:48

Only one pair of my and late husband's couple friends, still meet up with me as a couple.

After the first few months of being lovely, meet ups with the others ended up exactly as OP describes. The visits to their homes almost always had the husband disappearing after greeting me . Funny how they always had an errand to do.
And the first I knew of the various friends' annual parties that we always used to be invited to, was when I saw the photos on mutual friends' Facebook pages

Then it stopped being invitations to their houses completely, and just being the female half arranging to meet me for coffee (or if I was lucky, lunch).

I try not to dwell on it. But it absolutely sucks.

saraclara · 26/05/2024 18:50

Mockingjay123 · 26/05/2024 18:42

I doubt anyone is assuming you ‘want their husband’ or are viewing you as a threat. Much more likely that they are thinking you won’t want to be a third wheel.

If I don't want to be a third wheel, I have the option to say I can't make it. They don't get to attempt to mind-read and decide for me.

Idontknowwhattodo78 · 26/05/2024 18:51

Op, if you were my widowed friend, I would invite you round often and my DH would make the cocktails! I understand exactly what you are saying, but not all of us are cunts, I promise! Xxx

IlonaRN · 26/05/2024 18:52

My Mum had this problem too 😔
She didn't want the husbands either! 🙄

Lucytheloose · 26/05/2024 18:53

I wish there were a special type of ring you could wear on a designated finger, to indicate that you are not up for it, not interested, under any circumstances.

Theseers · 26/05/2024 18:54

Haha

Im a single woman and I definitely do not want your husband. Mate you don’t even want him why would I 🤣

LettuceTruss · 26/05/2024 18:55

This was the situation my Mum was in. Once her friends were widowed they came back, and wanted to go on holiday with her again etc etc.

NoPowerInTheVerse · 26/05/2024 19:13

I've had this since I was in my late teens and started socialising. I'm short, plain, and have very little interest in any human specimens, let alone the married variety. I'm still convinced the relationships I did end up in were accidental... besides which almost all of the guys were rubbish anyway, it's why I now live with a platonic female friend. (Try explaining that to anyone who hasn't watched Sex Education...)

Why the hell would I want anyone else's smelly husband or boyfriend?!