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To feel that supportive relationships are a form of privilege

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Brood · 25/05/2024 20:30

I got my operation for my third round of egg retrieval about ten days ago. Unfortunately, there was an extremely rare complication where they could only access one of my ovaries and I ended up needing extra tests due to something that went wrong during the procedure. I felt devastated as I had no awareness this could even happen. I knew immediately when I woke up that something had gone wrong because the pad I was lying on contained a lot of blood which I had never seen on previous occasions and there was a very sombre atmosphere and lots of waiting.

The explanation I got was that our internal body parts are constantly moving around and sometimes they move out of reach. This resulted in me going home with all the mature eggs still in one of my ovaries.

Afterwards I was extremely swollen and sore and bleeding for days. But since then, the swelling hasn’t gone down - I look about 6 months pregnant - feel exhausted, unwell, I feel overly full after eating, headachey, my breasts are very tender, and I’m starting to wonder if something else has gone wrong. I don’t know if anyone has any experience with this process. I just remember the recovery time being pretty quick and straight forward previously, but then I never went home with all my eggs still inside one of my ovaries before.

The other thing is this has been having an impact on my mood. I felt super alone watching couples in the waiting room of the fertility clinic, seeing men arrive to pick up their partners, men in the waiting room (I hate seeing men in the waiting room - it feels so triggering). Everyone in my workplace is engaged or happily married and while I love my own company, I’m starting to wonder what am I missing that I can’t find anyone who wants to be with me. There’s a podcast I listen to and the speaker talks about her struggles but she has a very supportive partner, according to her she has perfect kids that she easily got pregnant with & a solid family and even a very supportive ex partner. I don’t think people like this can truly understand how life is when you don’t have any support. I listen to her talk about how difficult life is but I wonder does she get how privileged she is.. She has never had to do anything alone.

Part of the definition of privilege is that privileged people don’t know they have it. I wonder how well people giving advice to others would do without the security of knowing they are loved and of having that solid support system behind them. This woman talks about privilege all the time without ever recognising her own. Are people really taking a risk by speaking vulnerably or counter culturally when they have a band of cheerleaders behind them who all think the same?

My work colleagues have the privilege of soaring self confidence knowing they have been accepted and loved in their long term relationships . I see how their partners bring their cars to be serviced, pack them lunch and do the grocery shopping for them, pay half or all of the rent, drive them on trips, help coordinate their schedule, make them dinner, make them feel special on their birthdays. Good for them, but they cannot have any idea of what it’s like to need to be everything for yourself all the time, to have to do the work of all those supporting roles alone. I wish the world would recognise this privilege. I know these are two different subjects, but they’re kind of the same. I don’t have anyone in the waiting room or at home, or to do my shopping or make me dinner or look after me. I am trying to figure out how to have a baby alone, buy a house alone, build a career alone. I often have to take annual leave because I have no one to call on for little things like getting my car serviced. A few months ago, I couldn’t drive due to an operation and I had no support at all with basic daily needs. My work colleagues take for granted that support is there. There are just millions of little ways having a support system makes life so much easier, and anyone who has that is truly privileged.

I am often judged for not having everything in order but I’m juggling everything myself. We all don’t have the same hours in the day as Beyonce when Beyonce has a team of people who take loads off her and free up plenty of extra time. I am judged for trying to figure out who is worth dating while my colleagues have extremely high standards because they’ve been lucky enough to have been loved that way. I feel I have done more work on myself than most and unfortunately, things still don’t work out & people with good supporting partners and families are blind to how much more smoothly their life runs because of other people and have so little insight into that privilege

Am I being unreasonable to feel so isolated in feeling that no one understands this?

OP posts:
Minion21 · 25/05/2024 22:43

So you are undergoing an IVF procedure without having a partner and you are complaining that you don't have a partner?! I must have misunderstood, surely. Do yiou realise that, in comparison with a lot of women on the face of the earth, you are very privileged? And what about the child you're trying to conceive without a supportive partner? He is probably the only person that should be intitled to talk like that. He will have all the rights to see his peers with a dad very privileged! In any case all this recent , global woke talking about privilege has put what we once called envy on a pedestal. It nurtures the worst feelings of the human being.

DoreenonTill8 · 25/05/2024 22:46

Minion21 · 25/05/2024 22:43

So you are undergoing an IVF procedure without having a partner and you are complaining that you don't have a partner?! I must have misunderstood, surely. Do yiou realise that, in comparison with a lot of women on the face of the earth, you are very privileged? And what about the child you're trying to conceive without a supportive partner? He is probably the only person that should be intitled to talk like that. He will have all the rights to see his peers with a dad very privileged! In any case all this recent , global woke talking about privilege has put what we once called envy on a pedestal. It nurtures the worst feelings of the human being.

All of this.

BigtubOLard · 25/05/2024 22:53

With respect, you have completely redefined the word "privilege" beyond all recognition. The word you are looking for is "fortunate" and you are unaware of how much good fortune you have. I will leave it for other posters to explain your good fortune to you because you've got my back up with your privileged woe is me tale 😡

Catsmere · 25/05/2024 22:54

Agree with posters above. Who's forcing you to take the time consuming and difficult path of IVF and single parenthood? You have the privilege of doing so. Having a child isn't a right.

Beezknees · 25/05/2024 22:56

YABU. Not everything is about "privilege" for God's sake, and I say that as someone who has very little family support and raised my child completely alone since he was 10 months old.

cannonballz · 25/05/2024 22:57

personally, I feel incredibly "privileged" to have my wonderful, free, single life, and I pity all those encumbered with partners.

usernother · 25/05/2024 22:58

You are doing all this by choice OP. Stop moaning.

SpringerFall · 25/05/2024 23:04

You have made your choice, no one else is to blame

Friendofdennis · 25/05/2024 23:07

but situations change all the time. My husband became very ill and now I care for him. He can’t do anything for himself. So you may once have called me ‘privileged’ but what is my situation now ? Relationships and circumstances are much more complex than a notion of the privileged and non privileged.

Pastlast · 25/05/2024 23:08

Wow really harsh responses! IVF is tough. Hang in there and be kind to yourself.

Catsmere · 25/05/2024 23:11

Sounds like you need to get to grips with being single, OP. You assume the women you know have "soaring self confidence" because of being in supportive relationships - tbh that sounds like you're projecting from your own insecurity. I'm single, lifelong, and don't see women in relationships that way at all. Just the opposite, in many cases.

Beezknees · 25/05/2024 23:13

Pastlast · 25/05/2024 23:08

Wow really harsh responses! IVF is tough. Hang in there and be kind to yourself.

Because I'm sure people don't like being called "privileged" simply for having a partner especially when OP is choosing to do this alone. I'm a lone parent and I still think the responses are justified.

OneLemonOrca · 25/05/2024 23:14

I understand everything you have said. If you want a child you should be able to have one and I sympathise that you didn’t find a partner or someone to share your life with. Having a partner is an emotional need. Have you put yourself out there much. What have you done to find a partner so far

Rowen32 · 25/05/2024 23:15

OP, these responses are horrific. I don't know what's wrong with people. I totally understand. I was single for a long time and it's a painful level of loneliness especially when it's not your choice. It must be horrible to go through what you're going through alone. Just because you can afford IVF doesn't mean you're not allowed to feel what you're feeling, shame on those other posters. I have had incredible privilege in my life in a lot of ways, have also experienced horrific trauma. Do I not have a right to be sad about that because I've been lucky in other ways. I hear you OP, private message of this thread gets too much xx

TheGlassCastle · 25/05/2024 23:19

Sorry to hear you’re having a difficult time, I had three rounds of egg collection too and absolutely sympathise with the effects of medication, hormonal fluctuations and physical symptoms you experience plus the emotional side effects and disappointment when things don’t go as well as you hoped/ expected. Personally I would suggest:

  1. Changing what you read/ listen to - it doesn’t sound like you actually enjoy that podcast. I listened to “Freezing Time” by Sophia Money Coutts when I was preparing for IVF which is about egg freezing as a single woman without a partner.
  2. Trying counselling (if you’re in the UK I think your clinic must offer it but not necessarily for free)
  3. Looking for groups specifically for people intending on becoming single mums by choice - there might be a support thread in the infertility section or groups you can join on Facebook/ Instagram/ Peanut etc.
  4. Recognising that sadly life isn’t fair and that some people are more fortunate than others but you can choose to focus on the things you can control
Twolittleloves · 25/05/2024 23:20

I think others are being harsh here...
I am 'privelidged' in a way you describe....loving supportive partner, and two children who I conceived easily.

To you I am privelidged, and so I hear your frustrations and empathise that it must feel tough.

You might be privelidged to someone who cannot have children, because you are pregnant, and perhaps they would wonder why you don't feel that way.

It's all relative.
Everyone has their struggles and their blessings....some more or less than others.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 25/05/2024 23:21

If you have no support or back up when it is just you, then why on earth are you having a baby? How do you think you will manage a baby and a child with no support?
There is a reason why children are supposed to be the product of a loving, committed relationship.

Beezknees · 25/05/2024 23:22

Bigearringsbigsmile · 25/05/2024 23:21

If you have no support or back up when it is just you, then why on earth are you having a baby? How do you think you will manage a baby and a child with no support?
There is a reason why children are supposed to be the product of a loving, committed relationship.

I managed it at 18 years old to be fair. DS dad not involved and I lived alone.

Comedycook · 25/05/2024 23:22

I do have a partner but I agree with you op. Similarly my parents died when I was young ...I think having two alive, healthy, supportive parents is a form of privilege too. It's a similar thing I guess.

Jadedbuthappy82 · 25/05/2024 23:23

Well I hear you and I totally get it too. I empathise completely with what you're saying. Won't bore you with the specific details of my own position, it's different to you but similar in the coping alone way and being almost patronised/criticised/pitied by those around me who all have doting husband's.. they can't and won't ever properly get the difference in our lives. Even the little things, so many little things, each day. Sounds daft but just having someone to bring you a cuppa when the day has gone to pot again. I get it. You are not alone. We just have to keep going, one small step at a time. And most of all, be kind to yourself and make allowances for yourself.

Hellodarknessmyfriend · 25/05/2024 23:25

I understand it can't and certainly won't be easy. But you are consciously making the choice to potentially have a baby completely alone?

Lmox · 25/05/2024 23:25

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Catsmere · 25/05/2024 23:27

I agree with the poster above who mentioned every piece of good fortune being called privilege. I'm sick to death of the term. Would someone refer to good relationships being a privilege in reference to all the shitty and downright abusive relationships out there?

amoobaa · 25/05/2024 23:29

Wow, a lot of very harsh comments, considering they have no idea of your full circumstances. IVF is tough and from what you’ve described that last procedure was really hard.

What I took from your post is that you want a partner and you’re struggling with the journey to parenthood alone.

I cannot imagine doing IVF and parenting without my spouse and I’m not sure why others are so lacking in empathy in their replies because it’s very very hard to be alone when you want to settle down with someone. I’m sorry you’re feeling awful.

You said “I’m starting to wonder what am I missing that I can’t find anyone who wants to be with me.” I’m sorry you feel lacking somehow and I hope you find some peace within yourself. You said you’ve worked on yourself a lot… have you been in therapy? I wouldn’t be where I am today without seeing a really good therapist.

Be kind to yourself, despite others lacking empathy… you’re going through a lot and it’s only human to be feeling low. Of course you want some reassurance and validation so I can understand why you came on here. If you had a partner you might have been able to vent and talk things over with them but you don’t and it sounds like you don’t feel supported in any way, so you reached out to strangers… many of whom have reacted quite harshly.

I’m sorry and I hope you find a lighter, more positive way forwards- I hope you connect with others in a more fulfilling way. Maybe start with genuine connections of any kind- not just dating but with meaningful friendships etc.

Wishing you the best.

CranfordScones · 25/05/2024 23:29

Whatever you're feeling is valid.

But it doesn't help your case to use 'privilege' as a stick to beat other people with.