Who are you voting for?

[rsmama27]

The general feeling on social media is that the Tories will be obliterated in the upcoming GE. AIBU to not be surprised if they get voted in again?

I'll be voting Labour as I have always done.

SDP

Has never flattered an invisible robe for social or political brownie points

Understands that neither the free market nor the state can be trusted with all the things all the time.

Seems to have a much better grasp than many parties on what makes humans tick, to incentivise more of what benefits communities, while understanding that life has not, will not, be a perfectly level playing field. And some people will need to state to provide some landing pads and some security so they can build meaning lives too. Lives that enrich their communities even if the value of that enrichment can’t be strictly counted in pounds signs.

Nothing and no one can be perfect. But the above are my tick boxes of “stuff that matters most to me”.

"You do realise that it isn't the 70's or 80's anymore don't you. Politics, people, attitudes and the rest are constantly evolving. It would be impossible for almost anything to stand still. Politics has to represent the world of the present (and hopefully the future) not what was happening in 1973"

@ginasevern what a trite statement, you sound rather like a party political broadcast 🤔

Every child should get to go to a school they want to.

So if every child wanted to go to an academically selective private school they should be enabled to do so regardless of academic ability or ability to pay.

Or

Popular schools should expand indefinitely to accommodate any child who wants to attend.

Or

All schools should be consistently welcoming, with an engaging, varied curriculum, accessible to children with additional needs, with personalised support for learning so that children actually want to go.

The last option would be my choice, but I don’t see any party committing the money that would be needed for that.

I’ve no idea who to vote for but people have short memories. It was horrific when Labour were last in power! If they get in it’s out the frying pan into the fire 😟

What was horrific about it?

@AmpleFatball Iraq war for starters!

I’ve no idea who to vote for but people ihave short memories. It was horrific when Labour were last in power! If they get in it’s out the frying pan into the fire

This trope is such tosh.
The people who do welll under a Labour government are poor children, the people who do well under a Conservative government are rich pensioners.

@urbanbuddha i don’t want tories in either they’re awful too.

Iraq war was absolutely horrendous. Labour have an awful track record

Oh, right. I assumed you meant “horrific” for people in the UK, or something else that would be relevant to the current election.

I don’t think there’s much prospect of Starmer going to war against Iraq, do you?

@AmpleFatball

well I care about all the people that died in Iraq because of Labour - not just English folk.

Labour also made some terrible decisions that ruined the NHS, namely signing up to expensive contracts.

locally Labour are terrible. I live in a Labour stronghold and they do shit things like close library’s.

torys are no better though. Both are dreadful

None. They're all crap, so we are doomed whatever imo

I’ll vote Labour as the tories are a disgrace. We’ve been financially crippled and I can’t imagine it improving with another stint of them.

All of the other choices seem like wasted votes.

Local councils are closing services like libraries because of 15 years of chronic underfunding from the Tory party.

Green, as our local candidate has a brain and uses it.

The "Labour" party forcibly deselected our local socialist MP, who understood local issues and actually gave a toss about our town. And the Labour leader of the local council is the biggest tit you've ever seen, is massively corrupt, and is actively harming the local economy. So the Starmtroopers can fuck off.

Funny you should say that, in our case they closed a much-loved and heavily used library, simply because they are massively corrupt. Apparently it needed selling to developers, as the council had no money. It has now stood empty and neglected for 4-5 years. The year after they closed it, they announced a £9m (at least) newbuild of council offices, despite there being at least 5 existing unused viable buildings that could've been used for the same purpose. Those buildings are also empty blots on the landscape. This is a largely Labour-run council. Labour MP that opposed many of their horrendous decisions now deselected. The party is a disgrace.

@Churchview yeah Labour love the blame game. unfortunately our local labour council is very corrupt and they gave the empty library building over to a councillors spouse to open a cafe 😂. This is the tip of the iceberg with Labour. Anyone see what happened with Labour in Liverpool? Fraud etc

Yes I did, not being a million miles away from you. Don't care if this is outing, I am so upset at what the red tories and their naked greed and corruption have done to my home town, it has directly impacted me and my family and was to a large extent avoidable, regardless of the blue tories. I hope the voters take a wrecking ball to the red wall, but the number of turkeys voting for Xmas means this is unlikely and we will have to sink even lower.

Fed up of people saying they will vote tactically. Vote for who you think is actually best and it may not end up being a two horse race all (most of) the time. Also annoying ' I have always voted x, so will continue to do so'.... Fine, if they actually have decent policies but most people that say this seem to be automatically against another party on some wierd historical principle that prob goes back to a time when they weren't born.

That’s the First Past the Post system for you, though. It basically enshrines a two-party, broad-church setup forevermore.

@rsmama27 you've literally said you will never vote for anyone else and then say you can't see any other options 😂

Really struggling to decide tbh. I’m someone who isn’t loyal to a particular party and has always voted depending on who I think would be the better MP for the area. I live in a marginal seat so it might actually matter. It was Labour then went to Tories last time.

But in the larger (Westminster) sense both main parties seem as bad as each other at the moment - albeit in different ways. Hoping somebody in one of the parties or a local candidate will inspire me closer to the time.

And didn’t you hear Starmer last night about crippling working families with even more tax? Why are you willing to vote for someone who will cripple your financial situation even more? Genuine question, I just don’t understand.

Did Starmer say that? Or did Sunak keep claiming it, rudely talking over the host and Starmer, despite it having absolutely no basis in reality?

Re taxes, while the tax burden on working people is at a historic high, I would like Labour to consider increasing taxes on wealth and capital which remain comparatively low, see article below. Those with many assets such as multiple properties, stocks and shares have increased their wealth considerably since 2010 whilst solely wage earners have struggled

“There is an overwhelming economic and ethical case for higher taxes on wealth and for taxing capital gains at the same rate as income, not least the soaring levels of wealth inequality in Britain.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/01/why-labour-must-adopt-a-radical-new-taxes-including-on-wealth-and-capital-gains?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I didn’t hear that. But the increases of the cost of living under the tories leaves me no confidence it won’t only get worse!