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AIBU to feel this will happen un a Labour government???

From what I see and IMO, the Labour lot on the whole believe in aspirations but only for themselves

Older people will vividly recall the the hideous tax rates under labour - between 1974 and 1979 the paye tax rate was up to 80%. Then there was a tax on top of that for so-called higher earners of 18%. This equated to 98%

I don't trust Labour, nor do I trust the Torties. Liberals, IMO they will sell your soul down the river to get a sniff at number 10

As I said I don't trust any of them. But if you are working, worked hard, been prudent with your money and have savings, decent private pensions in the pipeline and possibly a property or two that you have worked for, for your retirement and not wasting your money and want to leave some behind for your kids, GC etc rather than throw it away on the hand to mouth life - then if Labour comes into power, you are totally and truly F'd

Labour rants they will do this and the other - the last time they almost bankrupted England,

If you are working hard being prudent with your money and made sacrifices to send your kids to a private school as many Labour MP's do on pay at almost 100k - they are eager to put VAT on this part of education. The MPS whose pay is a couple of times above average pay will be able to afford it - will you??

Me, my family, relatives have all worked hard, not on benefits, never lived in social housing and not thrown our money away but been prudent to be self-sufficient and pay our taxes to support our country. If you are like us, then trust me, under Labour, you will be shafted hard.

I'm not sure if I will vote tory or an independent but this circus of Tories and Labour taking turns to lie to the nation is not on and yes, most politicians lie and will lie and say anything to get into number 10 and if your feel that is not true, then you must be on another planet

Have you not seen the polls? I would have thought it was essential for any social commentator to keep abreast of them, distinguished or otherwise.

I think a lot of people are still clinging to the hope of massive numbers of shy Tories coming to save the day.

I'd advise them not to look at Electoral Calculus' track record on predicting election outcomes.

Mine and my Husbands last corporate tax bills for our 2
companies was over £80k and our personal bill into the £20k each also.
so yes, I think I am entitled to be aggrieved at the amount of tax we pay to benefit scroungers thank you!
so more than happy to leave my keys at the front desk and go elsewhere to be welcomed more and feel safer and warmer also whilst still putting into another country. Are you happy to compensate for the ludicrous amounts of tax we pay into the system??
you all carry on and vote Labour in, see where it doesn’t get you.

Bye then, all the best.

Haven't you packed yet?

Yep, your taxes go exclusively to benefits scroungers. Of course they do. They don't go towards police, nurses, teachers, road maintenance, council services... Nope, not a penny. 😂

To be fair, where I live, I'm pretty sure no one's taxes go on police or road maintenance...the other areas yes, but those two seem to be missed here!
I'm hoping a change of government might help with the police (or lack of) here though.

Well, we certainly don't get road maintenance here in Suffolk - our bit of it is under a coalition, and our local independent councillors have managed to get some movement on it since being elected. They're also the ones making visible improvements on the ground.

Our local Tory Councillor is nowhere to be seen, he does a lot of whinging on Facebook though.

Just for clarification, do you think anyone is entitled to benefits, or are all claimants scroungers? Because one of the British values you right wingers are always bleating about is the social contract. Since you don't subscribe to British values - well, you have a solution for those who don't subscribe to our values, don't you? And no one believes you'll emigrate.

Will do, and toodle pip

Starmer is a centrist and will govern as one

Why did he call himself 'a socialist' here?

https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-interview-im-a-socialist-for-me-it-has-a-very-practical-application

Don’t know Clav. Why don’t you ask him?

In the article he explained what he meant by socialist. He was talking to Momentum. Personally I'm glad he's decided they are a bunch of reactionary troublemakers and he's not going to bother with them anymore. They are the Green partys problem now.

why, not even on a so-called dead cert??😂

You are talking about 2 separate budgets here.

Council Tax (which is Means Tested) and funds-

• Rubbish collection
• Street lighting
• Libraries
• Police and fire services
• Youth clubs
• Parks and recreation facilities
• Education
• Transport and highways

and Income Tax (which has a scale of payments and allowances) that funds Government Departments, and pays for Prison Service, DHSS Payments etc.

Agreed
We had it tough under the tories mainly down to Covid and the Truss f-ing up England in the couple of weeks she was in office
Worryingly, as I stated before, if you've worked hard, not want to live off benefits when you retire and have a private pension, savings, BTL bought with your hard earned money in order not to be a burden to the state.

WATCH OUT THE SOCIALIST ARE COMING = Equality in life😂😂15 millions pounds of it😂

https://prolificlondon.co.uk/kier-starmer-net-worth/

Bought a buy to let in order not to be a burden to the state 😂😂😂😂😂

fantasy

@onegrumpyoldwoman does the government not fund councils at all any more then? I mean, I know that funding from Westminster to councils has been drastically cut, but if you're telling me no council gets anything and everything is now funded from council tax and business rates, I'd like you to provide me with a link.

Local Authorities still get money from Central Government.

I was making the point that there were 2 separate budgets.

Me, my family, relatives have all worked hard, not on benefits, never lived in social housing

Then aren't you incredibly LUCKY!

Because that's all that is LUCK!

Lucky that you were born and remained healthy, that your family and relatives were too, that you have the privileges of being able to learn and develop skills, to use those skills without hindrance, that you've never been made redundant or sacked with few savings to lean on, that you've never been homeless or poor. Or relying on food banks even if you're working full time.

At the time people may have thought last Labour Party weren't great, me included, but wow! Damn sight better than this shower of callous shite!

The 2/17 odds quoted seem to be an error. Some websites list that as the best available odds (apparently offered by an overseas company called LS Betting) but those aren’t the actual odds listed on their website, which are 1/20.

Most bookies have it at 1/20 or 1/33.

The return on your bet would be so small that it wouldn’t be a worthwhile investment. You’d be better off sticking money into an ISA.

NO MATE

Labour lot inc supporters are banging about how sure Labour will win and not just win but have a massive majority - its a no-brainer if Labour Lot really believe that but the excuses give the game away

Trust me, Labour will run what is left of England into the ground and yes, expect may more boats across the channel if they get to number 10. Yes, Labour is against sending illegal immigrants to Rawanda

FYI, I have nothing against legal immigration, we are immigrants and my parents came to England in the early 1960's, rented a property, well a room and worked 60 hours a week at times to get their own property - we need skilled people in England from abroad but the illegal immigrants and jumping the queue and not having to pay the thousands those come via legal routes and the costs to become Englands citizens

What is Labour policy on stopping illegal immigration - that right they don't have one and the rants are just rants

How does Labour view private education - that's right its not for you bud but ok if we get our kids in there, so make it even harder for joe down by slapping on 20% VAT

What Labours view on a nuclear deterrent - that's right, have a 'nuclear-free zone

Putting a bet on anything at odds of 1 - 20 is stupid, whether it be horses or politics. You'd need to bet £20 to get back £21. You don't seem to understand this.

Calling us MATE in all caps is rude. Do better.

And stop referring to 'Labour lot' - it makes it so utterly obvious where your loyalties lie despite your claim to not support any side.

Lastly, you saying 'this will happen' does not make it true.

Clav! Hello!

Your first paragraph makes no sense whatsoever 😬😄.

Back away from the wine and the keyboard op.