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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 22/05/2024 18:17

AIBU to feel this will happen un a Labour government???

From what I see and IMO, the Labour lot on the whole believe in aspirations but only for themselves

Older people will vividly recall the the hideous tax rates under labour - between 1974 and 1979 the paye tax rate was up to 80%. Then there was a tax on top of that for so-called higher earners of 18%. This equated to 98%

I don't trust Labour, nor do I trust the Torties. Liberals, IMO they will sell your soul down the river to get a sniff at number 10

As I said I don't trust any of them. But if you are working, worked hard, been prudent with your money and have savings, decent private pensions in the pipeline and possibly a property or two that you have worked for, for your retirement and not wasting your money and want to leave some behind for your kids, GC etc rather than throw it away on the hand to mouth life - then if Labour comes into power, you are totally and truly F'd

Labour rants they will do this and the other - the last time they almost bankrupted England,

If you are working hard being prudent with your money and made sacrifices to send your kids to a private school as many Labour MP's do on pay at almost 100k - they are eager to put VAT on this part of education. The MPS whose pay is a couple of times above average pay will be able to afford it - will you??

Me, my family, relatives have all worked hard, not on benefits, never lived in social housing and not thrown our money away but been prudent to be self-sufficient and pay our taxes to support our country. If you are like us, then trust me, under Labour, you will be shafted hard.

I'm not sure if I will vote tory or an independent but this circus of Tories and Labour taking turns to lie to the nation is not on and yes, most politicians lie and will lie and say anything to get into number 10 and if your feel that is not true, then you must be on another planet

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BIossomtoes · 23/05/2024 15:03

What’s a 16 year old article about a Tory tax rise got to do with anything?

HelenaWaiting · 23/05/2024 15:27

BIossomtoes · 23/05/2024 15:03

What’s a 16 year old article about a Tory tax rise got to do with anything?

I'm guessing they were hoping no one would notice how ancient the article is 🤣 What a thoroughly dishonest thing to do. I've reported it.

pointythings · 23/05/2024 15:30

BIossomtoes · 23/05/2024 15:03

What’s a 16 year old article about a Tory tax rise got to do with anything?

Ah, the smell of Tory despair. <inhales deeply>

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/05/2024 15:40

disaggregate · 23/05/2024 12:44

Well if that's your take, then maybe private schools are really only accessible for the top 5% of earners? If people at the lower end of the top 10% of earners find it a struggle, maybe they should be more realistic about what they can afford.
Are you suggesting that 90% of the population aren't hard workers and don't try to improve their children's lives?

If people at the lower end of the top 10% of earners find it a struggle, maybe they should be more realistic about what they can afford

Yes completely agree there, rather this than those who "sit on their arses all day" 🙄 (you'd know their health status/circumstances how exactly?!)
If people are going to find private schools.a struggle, maybe should be a bit more realistic about their own financial situation instead of speculating about/ judging others.

HelenaWaiting · 23/05/2024 15:47

For the record, I along with many other wheelchair users, "sit on my arse all day". I do wish people would think.

ByKindOpalPoet · 23/05/2024 15:48

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 14:40

Article from 2008. You must be desperate

Soukmyfalafel · 23/05/2024 16:08

People are bombarding AIBU with this subject. Surely there is a section this can go in that isn't AIBU, given that it is a political issue for a minority. Is there a private education board these can be moved to? It's a general issue, not really a personal AIBU that is unique about differing sets of circumstances. Why do we need a million threads with the same discussion?

pointythings · 23/05/2024 17:00

@Soukmyfalafel I'd support having a temporary General Election 2024 board, but I don't know how feasible it would be.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:33

TBH, the Tories have been complete shit recently and worse than shit and f's up millions pf homeowners with massive interest rises and catastrophic inflation was the dangerous clown aka L Truss.

Sadly, as labour may get in with the support of odds and ends MP's - the situation for those that have their own homes, savings, and a BTL for their pension so they are not burdened to the benefits system, Labour will seriously F up those with a few quid to their name and do it in a much bigger style than the #clown/Truss

The Rawanda promises and extraordinary newsflash speeches at 6pm prime time tv news time by the useless clown Sunak was all a load of BS - his promises and he made several in the past few months to get the boat people on planes to Rawanda were all as I expected total BS

So I will be voting independent and hope they will form a part of the miniorty gov and keep the toires on track - God help those with some money to their name if Labour slips in

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anotherside · 23/05/2024 17:45

The fact that, a few digs at the whole trans/women stuff aside, the right wing press has for the last two years+ seemed completely comfortable with the prospect of a Starmer win makes me pretty sceptical of him pushing through any policies that will change much. It seems he’s viewed as comfortable establishment. In fact I wouldn’t be shocked if one or two of the Mail, Telegraph, Times, Express etc even end up lending him their support. He’s a better option than the Tories but I’ll be shocked if he runs an actual Labour government in any meaningful sense - ie he does anything to reduce inequality and/or increase the quality of life of the poorest people.

Zonder · 23/05/2024 17:47

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 14:40

We would all love to know why you posted this old article. Go on, tell us.

frankentall · 23/05/2024 17:48

OP keeps on making ridiculous statements like -
Labour will seriously F up those with a few quid to their name and do it in a much bigger style than the #clown/Truss

There is ZERO evidence for this and nothing to suggest it would happen.

anotherside · 23/05/2024 17:48

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:33

TBH, the Tories have been complete shit recently and worse than shit and f's up millions pf homeowners with massive interest rises and catastrophic inflation was the dangerous clown aka L Truss.

Sadly, as labour may get in with the support of odds and ends MP's - the situation for those that have their own homes, savings, and a BTL for their pension so they are not burdened to the benefits system, Labour will seriously F up those with a few quid to their name and do it in a much bigger style than the #clown/Truss

The Rawanda promises and extraordinary newsflash speeches at 6pm prime time tv news time by the useless clown Sunak was all a load of BS - his promises and he made several in the past few months to get the boat people on planes to Rawanda were all as I expected total BS

So I will be voting independent and hope they will form a part of the miniorty gov and keep the toires on track - God help those with some money to their name if Labour slips in

Labour isn’t going to slip in, it will be a landslide. But Starmer is a centrist and will govern as one. He really ought to be in the Lib Dems, especially given his passion for Europe.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:49

Zonder · 23/05/2024 17:47

We would all love to know why you posted this old article. Go on, tell us.

Bud - read the thread as many were asking for "evidence" re labours very high taxes - look it up bud - the 83% tax is not the full story as there was an additionally 18% equating to 93%

HTH, bud.

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frankentall · 23/05/2024 17:50

So I will be voting independent and hope they will form a part of the miniorty gov and keep the toires[sic] on track
There is absolutely zero chance of this - it's pure fantasy like 99% of your content.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:50

anotherside · 23/05/2024 17:48

Labour isn’t going to slip in, it will be a landslide. But Starmer is a centrist and will govern as one. He really ought to be in the Lib Dems, especially given his passion for Europe.

So labour voters will be staking everything they own on that at the betting shop then😂

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frankentall · 23/05/2024 17:52

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:49

Bud - read the thread as many were asking for "evidence" re labours very high taxes - look it up bud - the 83% tax is not the full story as there was an additionally 18% equating to 93%

HTH, bud.

Nearly 60 years ago "bud". Meanwhile, current Tory tax levels are the highest for 70 years, bud.

BIossomtoes · 23/05/2024 17:53

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:49

Bud - read the thread as many were asking for "evidence" re labours very high taxes - look it up bud - the 83% tax is not the full story as there was an additionally 18% equating to 93%

HTH, bud.

Please stop calling us “bud”. And since when did 83+18 = 93?

BIossomtoes · 23/05/2024 17:54

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:50

So labour voters will be staking everything they own on that at the betting shop then😂

No point, the odds are rubbish - 2/17.

Zonder · 23/05/2024 17:55

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:49

Bud - read the thread as many were asking for "evidence" re labours very high taxes - look it up bud - the 83% tax is not the full story as there was an additionally 18% equating to 93%

HTH, bud.

No it really doesn't. It's far too old and article to be relevant. There have been other labour governments since then. I really think you need a new user name.

ilovesooty · 23/05/2024 18:00

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:49

Bud - read the thread as many were asking for "evidence" re labours very high taxes - look it up bud - the 83% tax is not the full story as there was an additionally 18% equating to 93%

HTH, bud.

Why are you calling people "bud"?

pointythings · 23/05/2024 18:18

ilovesooty · 23/05/2024 18:00

Why are you calling people "bud"?

Maybe OP thinks we're all the darling buds of May?

AmpleFatball · 23/05/2024 18:19

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 23/05/2024 17:49

Bud - read the thread as many were asking for "evidence" re labours very high taxes - look it up bud - the 83% tax is not the full story as there was an additionally 18% equating to 93%

HTH, bud.

Don’t you think bleating on about those tax rates from the 1970s, while ignoring that the top rate was similarly high (or higher) in the 40s, 50s and 60s, under both Labour and the Conservatives, is pretty disingenuous?

In fact, Labour’s changes in the 70s actually saw high earners paying slightly less tax on earned income (and slightly more tax on investment income) versus preceding decades.

IClaudine · 23/05/2024 18:28

So I will be voting independent and hope they will form a part of the miniorty gov and keep the toires on track - God help those with some money to their name if Labour slips in

You are so funny DSC, pootling along in your own little version of the universe.

Have you not seen the polls? I would have thought it was essential for any social commentator to keep abreast of them, distinguished or otherwise.

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