To think that the CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis should be fired?

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This is an absolute nightmare of a case. If you've not been aware of it before now it's time to wake up and take a hard look at what is happening in women's support services across the UK. There seems to be a concerted effort to dismantle women's boundaries and withdraw support from vulnerable women who need spaces away from men.

It’s clear he wants power over women and this role have him that. The idea that traumatised women were turned away without referral to other agencies is horrific. Shows a total lack of care and compassion.

it’s horrendous. just reading and the woman seems entirely reasonable no idea why they ‘managed her out’.

of all the places to centre ‘inclusivity’ above all else I’m really surprised it’s a rape crisis centre

I honestly think that Maggie Chapman is a dangerous person.

Rape Crisis Scotland, parent organisation of ERCC, was also relatively recently fined:

'A Scottish employment tribunal has ordered Rape Crisis Scotland to pay a former employee over £50,000 in compensation after it found she had been unfairly dismissed from her role in the charity. It also expressed concern at the extensive role played by chief executive Sandy Brindley throughout proceedings.'

https://www.scottishlegal.com/articles/employment-tribunal-finds-woman-suffering-from-anxiety-unfairly-dismissed-from-rape-crisis-scotland?s=09

Yes

How sick and abusive to take over a fucking rape crisis centre and use your power to centre your misogynist ideology. To force women to lie. To force abused women to disclose their experiences potentially in the presence of men.

The fact that so many pretend they can't see this man and can't see his abusive behaviour just shows how deeply ingrained misogyny still is in our society.

Very dangerous.

Like a significant number of TRAs, MW is not just male, but the worst of males. Zero empathy for women and girls. Why was MW appointed to a totally unsuitable position, is the real question. What has happened to the women's sector? I hope the hapless women who had to defend the centre in court because Wadhwa didn't appear have finally got a clue by now about how much they've been had.

I read the judgement and it's incredible that this situation was allowed to happen especially as to the nature of the service.

Roz was so balanced and kind in her emails and where she was asking for the service users (rape victims) to be given the truth and choice about counsellors. This case is the clearest example of the victim being bullied yet being accused of bullying.

The board were utterly incompetent and had no experience...how the hell did any of them get appointed?? It was said there were not aware of the Maya judgement despite receiving legal advice.

This statement is vile. Absolutely vile, damaging, gas-lighting sewage. I can’t believe what I’ve just read - “expect to be challenged on your prejudices..”

I genuinely have no words ……

This.

There is no level to which they will not stoop. It's evil.

Men have no place in women’s safe spaces. To put a man in charge of a rape crisis centre beggars belief. Those responsible should certainly be sacked because they put their belief in an ideology before the core role of their job ie to support and protect traumatised women.
For too long we have tiptoed around calling men who call themselves “transwomen” men. Women who have been raped have even been forced to call their rapist “she” in court.
Well I say no more. Men in frocks, wigs, slap, fake boobs or fannys, taking female hormones are all still men no matter whatever they wish was true or whatever they do to their appearance.
Men, men, men.
By all means live your life however you choose but don’t expect to do so at the expense of others or the truth.

The Student asked Wadhwa if she believes a man could be a successful rape crisis centre manager. She does not: “I don’t think men are ready to go out and set up services of this nature. Women’s aid organisations and rape crisis centres have been set up with the blood, sweat, and tears of women. It’s about the women’s experience of sexual violence.Our workforce is reserved for women only.”

And this sums up neatly why we should be concerned about pronouns and words...

I agree with the principle - these services should not be set up and run by men (and I speak as a man). The sheer hypocrisy of Wadhwa - a man - making this comment while running the place is unbelievable.

While society continues to refer to some men as women and use the pronouns she / her etc. for those men this hypocrisy (while clear to the discerning) will continue to have a feint veil drawn over it in an attempt at looking respectable.

Had The Student written it correctly - asking Wadhwa if he believes - commenting: He does not: then the travesty of this illogical structure would be laid bare - those who continue to support these lurid fantasies that a man can ever be a woman should be castigated as much - The Student should also hold responsibility for supporting this scenario...

There can be no reason other than sexual or power based in a man pretending to be a woman to run a centre for woman traumatised by men...

WTF were they doing hiring a man for such a role in the first place?

Is the judgement available to read?

I may be being dense but can’t see a link to the full thing!

The attempts by trans groups to remove female legal and human rights, boundaries and single sex spaces has been going on for years.
https://womansplaceuk.org/2018/06/25/references-to-removal-of-single-sex-exemptions/

Is that the one who said that terrified women who have raped and want female only facilities must "reframe their trauma" or they are bigots?

Who, Maggie Chapman who said in an interview that she didn’t know whether she was male or female as she hadn’t had her chromosomes checked? That Maggie Chapman?

The only reason she hasn’t been sectioned is the dire state of mental health services. She is certifiably insane, no question about it. It’s terrifying that she’s an MSP and making decisions that affect the Scottish public.

Is that the one who said that terrified women who have raped and want female only facilities must "reframe their trauma" or they are bigots?

Yes. Also left the SNP in disgust when they voted for an amendment to the Forensic Medicine Bill to allow women to have a forensic examination by someone of their own sex rather than "gender".

After having been raped. This coming from a male in charge of a rape crisis centre.

Yes.

Julie Bindel has helpfully pointed out that with this result, he may need to reframe his trauma!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N4R1DAgf3JlR_Ao7ASS18GGE98t6vB-8/view

About that link, the judgment is very substantial, over 100 pages.

Is this the person who told women to "reframe their trauma"?
I think that tells us everything we need to know

It’s been picked up by a number of other outlets now-

The Scottish Daily Express

The Daily Mail

Scottish Legal News

Personnel Today

The Critic

UnHerd

The Scottish Sun

Civil Society

Holyrood

As the CEO did an unfair dismissal on a discriminatory basis in violation of the Equality Act, yes they should be fired.

But the comments on they never should have been hired in the first place only make sense if they had been found in an employment tribunal to have done an unfair dismissal before.

Comments saying a man/transperson can’t be CEO are discriminatory and a violation of the Equality Act.