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The Australians hate women and girls?

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Greengablesfables · 19/05/2024 09:41

It’s just come to my attention that there’s an Australian ‘satire’ 🤢 about a private girls school. The lead character is a girl played by a middle aged man. WTAF?? How is this ok?

‘… her character is written and acted by a thirty-nine year old man, projecting his own (outdated and dubious) idea of what teenage private school girls are like onto his performance. But whatever the reason for Ja’mie’s portrayal, there is no doubt that she is meant to be someone we cannot feel sympathy for and should not feel sympathy for. Lilley justifies us in laughing at Ja’mie, justifies us hating her. And by default, he opens the doors for us to hate on all teenage girls: the shallow, self-obsessed other to our purported multicultural and progressive society.

I hesitate to call Ja’mie: Private School Girl a satire, because its primary effect is to completely dehumanise and ridicule a single teenage girl to the point of hatred, rather than saying something about the mechanisms and ideologies that make her so revolting. At its best the series is puzzling and somewhat distasteful; at its worst, I think it does damage to the image of the teenage girl that real-life teenagers have to contend with. In a society that already has some very derisive views on what teenage girls are, I think we can do without Lilley’s attempts at satire, and some more novels like Beauty Queensinstead.’

The Australians hate women and girls?
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Greengablesfables · 19/05/2024 09:44

Obviously he’s not ‘funny’ enough to write proper comedy 🤷‍♀️

(Review in OP from Word Press, I couldn’t link it)

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Beefcurtains79 · 19/05/2024 09:45

It’s a piss take comedy show, it’s a spin off from his show High School High.

Begsthequestion · 19/05/2024 09:45

I found it funny.

It's a class critique more than anything.

Are you a private school girl perchance?

Teddleshon · 19/05/2024 09:49

Australia has lost the plot as far as the rights of women’s and girls are concerned. Tickle vs Giggle is a seismic court case yet attracts relatively little serious attention in Australia.

It has become an incredibly conformist country where “making trouble” is frowned upon.

Mrsjayy · 19/05/2024 09:49

Beefcurtains79 · 19/05/2024 09:45

It’s a piss take comedy show, it’s a spin off from his show High School High.

This, his comedy is supposed to be uncomfortable and cringey J'amie was a total brat it is satirical although i can see why you object to man dressed as girl thing. It's a good few years old the show I don't know if he's still making them.

Greengablesfables · 19/05/2024 09:49

Yeah. It’s supposed to be funny. Spare me. It’s misogynistic crap. No I’m a state school girl. It’s not about the school.

It’s about the fact it’s a middle aged man dressed as a school girl, dehumanising and ridiculing teenage girls 🤮

He also wrote it. Course he did. Grim.

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pointythings · 19/05/2024 09:49

So because of one very poor programme, you conclude that all Australians hate women and girls. Not dramatic at all. I have no intention of watching some misogynist shit, but I'm not going to make assumptions about the entire population of a country either. If you wanted a debate, you should have picked a less clickbaity thread title.

Usernameisnotavailable0 · 19/05/2024 09:50

Maybe watch it first before getting your knickers in a twist.

The main actor does several parodies, a different one is a self obsessed, camp, drama teacher.

I find both hilarious and am a feminist.

crumpet · 19/05/2024 09:50

It’s taking the piss in the same way as fils like Clueless, or even Mean Girls. The sheer confidence of a clique.

Greengablesfables · 19/05/2024 09:50

Wow. These replies tell me why we have a woman problem.

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RitaFromThePitCanteen · 19/05/2024 09:52

Bit of a leap. You know we have a tradition of crossdressing in comedy here in the UK too? Not to mention pantomime dames..

Mrsjayy · 19/05/2024 09:52

Greengablesfables · 19/05/2024 09:50

Wow. These replies tell me why we have a woman problem.

What are you on about ?

Begsthequestion · 19/05/2024 09:52

Greengablesfables · 19/05/2024 09:50

Wow. These replies tell me why we have a woman problem.

I think we have an OP problem

Usernameisnotavailable0 · 19/05/2024 09:53

The problem we have, is people forming opinions based on others opinions, without taking the time to educate and inform themselves first.

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 19/05/2024 09:54

Seems odd to highlight one example from one country when there's hundreds of British examples of men dressed as women in comedy and panto. And women dressed as men.

TemuSpecialBuy · 19/05/2024 09:55

You are about a decade late to the party… he’s a comedian and does satire about both men and women (lunatics on Netflix)

But in general, yes Australian men are fairly misogynistic.

Aussieland · 19/05/2024 09:57

I think you are projecting this obsession with the evil of transpoeple and interpreting that everyone might suffer the same as you. Honestly the main trans issues in Australia are bigoted people making trans people feel shit…

5bees · 19/05/2024 09:57

It was filmed 17 years ago. Just like a lot of old TV shows, it doesn't quite fit with today's views and values. I am certain Australia doesn't have a misogynistic society, but as with all countries all over the world, there will be a minor number of people who are misogynistic.

DarkForces · 19/05/2024 09:57

Try Fisk and Deadloch. Both brilliant Australian comedies with great female characters

Mrsjayy · 19/05/2024 09:57

I've just googled the .series was aired 11 years ago have you been bored and found it on netflix and decided to have a rant about it and Australians?

MotherFeministWoman · 19/05/2024 09:59

I saw it, I ended up hating the creator, not teenage girls.

Beryls · 19/05/2024 10:00

Summer Heights High where that character started (one of many) is donkeys years old now and started well before the all the trans stuff. He's being going a long time and is very funny. He does male characters as well. Jonas from Tonga and Mr G are brilliant. I think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one, which is understandable if you've only just discovered it and think it's related to trans/drag stuff as it is today, but like I say it's not.

5bees · 19/05/2024 10:01

TemuSpecialBuy · 19/05/2024 09:55

You are about a decade late to the party… he’s a comedian and does satire about both men and women (lunatics on Netflix)

But in general, yes Australian men are fairly misogynistic.

Not true about Australian men. Some are misogynistic but most aren't.

DarkestBeforeDawn · 19/05/2024 10:01

Watch the series first: Summer Heights High. Chris Lilleey portrays several different characters, including J'aime. It's very much satire. Yes it is not PC at all but my god did it make me laugh! Sometimes it's ok to just laugh and not read too deeply into things!

Tattletwat · 19/05/2024 10:03

And if you look at Mrs Browns boys do you fell that the British and Irish (it's a British Irish co-production) hate women as well.

It's a bit leap to suggest that Australia hates women when you look at this show that less that a million out 26 million watched the first episode and by the end it was down to half a million.

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