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Is mumsnet right wing?

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BrilloPadHairball · 17/05/2024 02:32

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

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Devonbabs · 21/05/2024 07:17

QueenCamilla · 21/05/2024 00:02

And also @AdamRyan are you aware that the policies you are supporting are actively making lives miserable for the migrants and the working-class British?
The numbers of migrants we are seeing, is adversely impacting on the education of my son. It is also impacting on his experience of friendships - the children of different ethnicities hang out together and speak their own language. He cried at having no such group of his own, very few friends.

There is no one we know from the houses on our street. I know the landlords in the face though.
Slum and HMO landlords proliferate in the working class areas to accommodate single men in bedsits, including migrants and asylum seekers. Families leave. More HMOs. More families leave. Soon, there isn't even a house available to rent or buy as they all have been shoddily converted to small hatches. The working class families (and even women) have been permanently displaced.

As a result of a new breed of tenant, the crime and anti-social behaviour in previously lovely Victorian streets sky-rockets.
Due to language barrier and also lack of care that temporary tenants have, the housing stock and gardens get severely neglected. I'd probably struggle to describe the impact it has on the neighbours to someone who hasn't experienced it.
They don't know and refuse to know how to deal with their household rubbish and the collection of bins. Masses of our councils budget goes on clearing the pavements after tenant turnarounds. Could spend it on something else... But it would look and smell worse here than a gutter in Delhi.

There's more but you get the gist. As an immigrant, and a working class person, there ain't no thank-yous I can extend to anyone complicit in creating this misery around me. There ain't no good deed here.

Exactly, unless you have lived in such an area it’s almost impossible to describe. Although our area in the midlands was fairly affluent we had to move away. It lost its sense of community for us. There was very large scale immigration into the area quite rapidly. All the schools had bulge classes, Kids suddenly couldn’t get into catchment schools bused 30 min away. No attempt to mix outside their community and any extension of friendship rebuffed. You’re certainly not welcome.

By the time we left there were two separate ethnic groups trying to dominate the housing market in the area.

People don’t like you pointing this out. Multiculturalism doesn’t work.

And yes it triggers problems elsewhere- our move to Devon no doubt fed into the house price increase that means it’s harder for you locals to get on the housing ladder. At least we integrated, used local shops made local friends, attend local events, visit local pubs and restaurants, adapted to fit into the local culture. That’s what you do.

Zonder · 21/05/2024 07:35

@QueenCamilla I just want to remind you that what you're describing is happening under a very right wing Tory government. If you don't like it maybe it's worth looking at their policies that aren't working. @Againname makes a valid point about this.

EasternStandard · 21/05/2024 07:42

NefertitiV · 21/05/2024 02:35

@Devonbabs

I do think we should care about immigration - originally coming from Birmingham there’s obviously very high levels of ethnic diversity. And yes there is a total lack of intergration - it completely changes an area, as more of the houses of an area are occupied by diverse ethnic groups local shops don’t get the custom (the residents are visiting ethnic shops in other parts of the city. Those local shops close down and ethnic shops open. They don’t attend local events such as carnivals, socials, etc. they stop being held. Local youth groups have much fewer members they close down. Pubs are surrounded by houses where few people will go into the pub so it closes down. Supermarkets turn over aisle after aisle tp ethnic food. Local schools spend a lot of time and budget dealing with non- English speakers, and so it goes on.

Earlier in the thread ...

Lol. I’m not a daily mail reader.

If it quacks like a duck, and writes this, then ...

I’m sure the pp knows what she reads

What do you read?

Zonder · 21/05/2024 08:10

Interesting @AdamRyan I must tell my relatives in Birmingham that they're now Muslim. They'll be quite surprised.

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 08:11

NefertitiV · 21/05/2024 06:44

Hitler is dead.

😂

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 08:14

Zonder · 21/05/2024 08:10

Interesting @AdamRyan I must tell my relatives in Birmingham that they're now Muslim. They'll be quite surprised.

Honestly. I hate the Internet for people just making stuff up.

Anyway, time for this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68990672.amp
One of the named conspiracies:
The Great Replacement - False claims there is a plan to replace the European white population with ethnic minority groups

Penny Mordaunt

MPs given guide to spotting conspiracy theories

The guide - commissioned by Penny Mordaunt - warns MPs and candidates of the main conspiracies in circulation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68990672.amp

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 08:16

Devonbabs · 21/05/2024 07:17

Exactly, unless you have lived in such an area it’s almost impossible to describe. Although our area in the midlands was fairly affluent we had to move away. It lost its sense of community for us. There was very large scale immigration into the area quite rapidly. All the schools had bulge classes, Kids suddenly couldn’t get into catchment schools bused 30 min away. No attempt to mix outside their community and any extension of friendship rebuffed. You’re certainly not welcome.

By the time we left there were two separate ethnic groups trying to dominate the housing market in the area.

People don’t like you pointing this out. Multiculturalism doesn’t work.

And yes it triggers problems elsewhere- our move to Devon no doubt fed into the house price increase that means it’s harder for you locals to get on the housing ladder. At least we integrated, used local shops made local friends, attend local events, visit local pubs and restaurants, adapted to fit into the local culture. That’s what you do.

I think the reason you "felt unwelcome" could be to do with people picking up on your attitudes towards them.

Luckily you had enough money to leave that area and leave to a naice white area.

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 08:20

NefertitiV · 21/05/2024 06:44

Hitler is dead.

Yes it was an example of someone not being anything to do with the current UK.

That's how examples work. This is taking it to its ultimate ludicrous conclusion.

EasternStandard · 21/05/2024 08:21

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 08:20

Yes it was an example of someone not being anything to do with the current UK.

That's how examples work. This is taking it to its ultimate ludicrous conclusion.

It was obvious don’t worry

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 21/05/2024 08:25

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AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 08:27

The ostrich like behaviour of some posters about the financial ties between elements of the British right and the American Christian Right is pretty illuminating in itself.

What did Bannon do? Financed an Internet campaign to magnify right wing view points and make Brexit/Farage seem credible 🤔

Rainbowshit · 21/05/2024 08:33

ichundich · 17/05/2024 04:31

Well, I have a Labour party advert showing at the top of this message right now! Also judging from the amount of teacher unionists on this site I'd say it's left-wing rather than right wing. But then there is a lot of transphobia also...

Mumsnet HQ are very quick to delete actual transphobia so report if you see any. Oh so you mean not buying into the religious TWAW mantra?

Rainbowshit · 21/05/2024 08:35

Noname1000 · 17/05/2024 07:38

The FWR topic seems to be quite right wing.

If prioritising women and childrens safety over the wants of men is right wing then the left is truly lost.

EasternStandard · 21/05/2024 08:36

Rainbowshit · 21/05/2024 08:35

If prioritising women and childrens safety over the wants of men is right wing then the left is truly lost.

Agree. Well said

Wewereonnabreak · 21/05/2024 08:36

Rainbowshit · 21/05/2024 08:35

If prioritising women and childrens safety over the wants of men is right wing then the left is truly lost.

..

Is mumsnet right wing?
Devonbabs · 21/05/2024 08:40

And, where did I say Birmingham is a totally Muslim city? Certain areas of the city are predominantly Muslim, others not. Some are predominantly white.

I am talking solely about the area in which I lived where there was a mix of Muslim and people from Hong Kong buying most of the houses which came up for sale. This is my actual experience. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient to you but posting stupid Foc News link with no commentary for discussion illustrates you inability to debate the point.

Where do you live?

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 08:42

If BREXIT was completely driven by Steve Bannon, and the Christian Far Right, surely the Labour Party would be campaigning to reverse it, no?

Devonbabs · 21/05/2024 08:43

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 08:27

The ostrich like behaviour of some posters about the financial ties between elements of the British right and the American Christian Right is pretty illuminating in itself.

What did Bannon do? Financed an Internet campaign to magnify right wing view points and make Brexit/Farage seem credible 🤔

I’m sure there are ties between far right groups. What you repeatedly fail to understand that every position right of your extreme left is not “far right” I know you like to claim not but you are part of the issue in radicalising both far left and far right. By just dismissing peoples valid experiences you are radicalising people, you have no room for compromise.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2024 08:50

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 08:42

If BREXIT was completely driven by Steve Bannon, and the Christian Far Right, surely the Labour Party would be campaigning to reverse it, no?

How does that logic work?

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 08:50

Devonbabs · 21/05/2024 08:40

And, where did I say Birmingham is a totally Muslim city? Certain areas of the city are predominantly Muslim, others not. Some are predominantly white.

I am talking solely about the area in which I lived where there was a mix of Muslim and people from Hong Kong buying most of the houses which came up for sale. This is my actual experience. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient to you but posting stupid Foc News link with no commentary for discussion illustrates you inability to debate the point.

Where do you live?

Didn't you know, Fox news is based in Digbeth. They just pretend to be in the USA. Come on, do your research.

The good old American Right, whatever they say is right, especially when it underpins and supports things like BREXIT which are fully supported by the Left.

Got it.

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 08:52

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2024 08:50

How does that logic work?

If it is a far right campaign, would that not be a sure winner for the Labour Party to win an election on? Being that it wasn't the British Public that really voted for it, but were conned by the Religious Right.

Why aren't they shouting 'We Want Our EU Back You Right Wing Bastards' from the rooftops?

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2024 08:59

Because it’s too late and far too much time and money has already been wasted on it. The task of the next government is to try to ameliorate its worst effects and negotiate closer ties with Europe. In another decade the country might be amenable to another referendum, in the meantime there’s 14 years worth of damage to try and repair. That’s a big enough task for any government.

AlisonDonut · 21/05/2024 09:06

What BREXIT damage are they campaigning on?

Are they using the absolutely shitshow of BREXIT as a campaign tool?

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