Is mumsnet right wing?

[BrilloPadHairball]

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

Probably not. It’s a vote spinner above all else. Unfortunately for state education

Maybe you could explain why you think it’s wrong.

Their initial calculation. A one off. Has been analysed and these are available to see by googling.

All of them clearly show how the figure Labour has presented does not take account of
educating those who leave
ignoring numbers presented by the ics on bursaries, free places etc
not taking account of Indi schools claiming tax back
not taking account of less hours worked in terms of tax and ni payments
not taking full account of fee breakdown esp important in boarding schools
not accounting for increased £ of state sen education
not accounting for increased sen pupils in terms of teacher provision
not taking account of schools closing
not accounting for location of potential schools closing and impact on state schools
not accounting for inc in teacher numbers in state
not accounting for inc in house prices near grammar / selective / outstanding schools.

Theres more based on reports I have read but I think that’s enough for now.

Stop asking awkward (although perfectly obvious) questions. You’re forgetting people will flock to the teaching profession under Labour, it will be so great people will work for free, ride to school on their unicorns to cut down on greenhouse gases. The nasty “rich folk” will be mixing with those in council house blocks (because obviously they will live in the same catchment) and the kid with the drug addled parents will outshine the kid of the lawyer and accountant who will end up destitute whilst the kid who previously had no hope will become a high court judge. Hopefully sentencing all the rich people to prison // forever!!!!! And they all lived happily ever after )except the middle income family- who were identified as rich)

See it works, all redistribution of wealth is good.

Omg - a Labour policy not properly costed - who would have thought😂

It’s extreme ideology to vote for the party you think will be best for the country you live in now? OK then.
Yes, of course there are more and less important issues to people, but I don’t believe most vote based entirely on their own pockets. If health is an important issue for people, they vote for the party they believe will be best for that service, if education, that service, etc. It’s really pretty straightforward.
As Regards your last sentence, I’d say voting for what I think is best for t(e majority is the very opposite of having ‘no care’. I’d say voting on the basis of your own pocket is showing no care for the impact of policies on others.

Ah, another “Off you go and google it” poster. Sorry, I provide links to support my assertions. It’s basic courtesy. Without them I just assume it’s fiction.

You mentioned Google you’ll be on an eternity list somewhere now ;

It would be disastrous for families if they walked away from caring.
I looked after my mother for nearly ten years as she had cancer. I know what it’s like and towards the end of that time ( about 3 years) I gave up my job as an architect. I’m aware of the huge financial loss to a family when caring for others.
However
I do think everyone has a responsibility to be honest, in all aspects, when applying for allowances, benefits, PIP and so on.
Investigations into both individuals and businesses in terms of tax owed and money paid to them should be a matter of course in all Governments and responsibility should be ( as it is ) on the applicant to be honest and keep up to date with everything.
That’s fare on everyone.

Ps. Yes I did miss the word proportionate
I therefore find that very worrying

The most decent thing the Tories have done over the last 14 years, was Theresa May launching the Infected Blood scandal inquiry.

Perhaps Right or Left, something we can agree on? but i doubt it!

Downside, why did it take 7 years just to get to this stage?

I think, given the benefits to society, the dangers in having less carers and the amounts involved, a fairer outcome would be to write this off and change the rules on the cliff edge.

Its 250m, just 1/3rd of Richi Sunaks personal wealth.

Look at all the councils- many in a mess due to 14 years of austerity.

I don't think "my interpretation is better than yours". I think anyone who vote Conservative in 2019 and ie planning to again is be definition right wing, as this current incarnation of the party are indisputably on the right.

Actions speak louder than words and all that.

Appreciate that but there are so many threads on MN about this very issue going way back in years so anyone interested will have read all this anyway and this post is about MN being right wing.

Sorry I’m not posting any links.
I’ve read them all and given a run down.

If you’re that interested, which given it’s a Labour policy I’m guessing you will be, then it’s your choice entirely to check it out or not.

His personal wealth is completely irrelevant.

I'd like to see Labours workings on the VAT thing, i would hope to see this in a manifesto.
Until i see this, i'm 50/50, having been to many private schools and knowing a few parents through work, i really don't see them moving to the state sector, i also suspect some schools will increase class numbers slightly to keep fee increases lower.

what i would say is that MN tory supporters were equally anti on Labours Nom dom policy..... funnily enough, now its a Tory policy, they (inc 1 or 2 on this thread) are very quiet.

Not in the context of the amounts owed being relatively small.

I wasn't suggesting he pay the shortfall.

Exactly the sort of viewpoint centre left people usually express

Sorry I’m not posting any links.
I’ve read them all and given a run down.

Sorry I don’t believe you. It would have taken less time to post a couple of links than to type that list. I do believe Reeves when she tells me that every single policy has been costed.

Is forcing biological men on women only spaces democratic or authoritarian

Is taking away the spousal veto and forcing women into same sex marriages democratic or authoritarian ( think Scotland meltdown here )

Is taxing private education for some but not others ( ie one to one personal tutors ) a democratic equality driven policy

Historically I’d think these were all Tory type policies……they aren’t though, are they. They are Labours.

Can you post those costings then.
Unlike just believing what someone says I prefer to read it for myself and see the proof.

I’m happy I’ve read the proof available to date and you’re happy with someone saying so.
That’s fine we are all different.

No politicians are "forcing biological men into women only spaces" or "forcing women into same sex marriages". That is ridiculously hyperbolic and over emotive language.

If they were doing that, yes it would be authoritarian and anti democratic. But they aren't.

Unlike just believing what someone says I prefer to read it for myself and see the proof.

Oh, you are funny.

😂😂😂😂😂

I expect most one to one personal tutors are below the VAT threshold. I don't think its any ideological thing.

To be honest I'd rather see Labout stop private schools claiming to be charities. People complaining about VAT on private schools look desperately out of touch to me.

But maybe what you think is best for the majority might not actually be what is best for the majority.

As I said? People vote for what is most important to them.