Is mumsnet right wing?

[BrilloPadHairball]

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

I think you may be locked in a 3 year old version of the Labour party....

Nah, it’s not really changed! Except Starmer comes out of hiding a bit more than during covid.

Based on what? your own prejudice?

Corbyn & Abbott are not even Lab MPs.

I didn’t say ‘all’
I said ‘many’ on the thread and obviously only those who have said so, I wouldn’t know otherwise.

No one’s calling anyone the scum of the earth 🤣
Everyone can chose for their own reasons what, if anything, they do. That’s democracy.

I know it’s a shame. At least they had a view they stuck to, better than slippery I’ll whore myself out to pressure groups, thinks women can have penises Starmer.

more to the point they brought some much needed light entertainment into politics, not to mention the nostalgia of feeling like I was back in the 6th form common room! Never mind they still have plenty of supporters in the Labour woodwork who no doubt will soon by trying to worm their way into the front benches when votes aren’t such an issue.

Exactly @Devonbabs just because we don’t agree with everything that comes out of Starmers mouth doesn’t make us right wing.
We are just prepared to step back and analyse irrespective of where the policies and opinions come from.

There’s another thread on here about whether MNs will vote based on transgender issues and given recent Labour updates re spousal consent the discussion is very interesting.

Your second to last paragraph re earning more whilst caring isn’t anything new. When you claim benefits you are required to update the Govn on earnings. It seems some people didn’t. Surely it’s only right that you keep the govn informed so you can be sure that you are receiving the correct amount in benefits. I’m not saying carers don’t deserve payments for the work they do, just that they are required, like everyone else, to keep their applications up to date.

The electorate atm seem to choosing Labour, so fortunately your view is the minority one.

As both are in their 70s, i doubt very much they'll make or want that journey to the front benches but unlike many MPs, should they stand again, they'll both win their seats comfortably... thats democracy.

Your attempts at sarcasm, isn't winning anyone over but it does make you look ridiculous, so keep at it.

@Alexandra2001

Can you please have a look at your two statements and explain them? Cheers.

@GivePeaceAChance No, it might not be a new thing but its only recently the Govt & HMRC have gone after them.

Due to the nature of the benefit, earn 1p over the threshold and you lose everything, thats why its unfair, especially when you consider the amounts carers save the state.

Its also very difficult to contact HMRC, its all chat bots, thats not really conducive to updating the taxman esp for many carers who are older.

The Equalities commission are now looking at why the GOvt is coming after twice as many women than men (proportionately)

Its a relatively very small amount of money and some leniency should be given, even if they very much reduced the monthly payments, which are having huge impacts on families...

Funny how Michele Mone or Hancocks pub owning mate, can rip off the state for 10s of millions & nothing is done but a carer..... "enemy of the state"

Maybe carers, as they seem not to matter to this Tory govt, should stop caring.

Can you explain please?
I don’t understand what this means.

Exactly-blind faith is never a good look in politics

You are so right, I couldn’t have put it better.

Who says I’m trying to win anyone over? I’m just stating my beliefs and understanding. I would hope anyone else would look at all the facts and make their own conclusions.

i find myself amusing and that’s all that counts, you’re welcome along for the ride if you fancy it, if not, create your own entertainment.

Just correcting those police numbers

re your comment ‘who has slashed police numbers’ comment

In 2010 there were 171 police officers / 100,000 of the population
In 2023 there were 171 police officers / 100,000 of the population

Given the growth in population the ratio is the same as more officers have been employed to allow for growth.

It’s rather more complex than that.

https://fullfact.org/crime/police-officer-uplift-numbers/

You misunderstood but to be expected

I think any concept of "with rights comes responsibility"' carries an implicit threat of rights being removed should you not live up to those "responsibilities" - which can be quite arbitrarily defined.

It is very authoritarian to think humans have rights "granted" by their betters and pretty right wing.

The "basic tenet of socialism" says nothing about rights or responsibilities. Funnily enough i don't agree with that either.

Whatever you say about your position, "continuing to vote Tory" at the moment is not consistent with any form of left or even centre position. The current Conservative party that has moved further right than they traditionally are, and as a result is losing the traditional centre right One Nation Tories to Labour. If you are voting for them, you must be right wing, but either in denial or not being upfront about your position. It's not an insult. Just a statement of fact.

Why are you assuming the concerns of (some) posters on here is reflective of what Labour position is?

That would be like me assuming that your concerns are reflective of the Tory position!

"The Conservatives don't care about clean drinking water in the UK, their policy is we can just boil it and be grateful not to be in rural Africa!"

Interestingly, my husband says one of the major issues in performing his role effectively is not so much the lack of policing but what he has to face, everyone”knows their rights” some joker tried to hand DH his phone to film which he was trying to undertake a body search the other day. Everyone is always filming, shouting abuse. Total wasters calling them over neighbour disputes, drunk at 9am.

it’s strange many on the hard left are up in arms about teacher and nurse recruitment:retention saying they need to be treated with more respect yet seem to actively encourage situations which mean police are in greater danger and are also leaving/not joining. Who can blame them!

"Whatever you say about your position, "continuing to vote Tory" at the moment is not consistent with any form of left or even centre position. The current Conservative party that has moved further right than they traditionally are, and as a result is losing the traditional centre right One Nation Tories to Labour. If you are voting for them, you must be right wing, but either in denial or not being upfront about your position. It's not an insult. Just a statement of fact."

Not necessarily. I'm centre. I didn't vote last time. I may vote tory this time because of potential VAT on my dd's sixth form school fees. No other reason at all. If it wasn't for this issue, I probably wouldn't vote.

my "patronising twat" alarm went off then.
don't be such an idiot. There is no implicit threat.

If you don't understand just ask.

I'm very far from authoritarian (although my own very personal belief is that the country/world would be better with me in charge as a benevolent dictator)

But you keep harping on. You have no

Sorry, I’m not even sure how you have extrapolated that.

The problems here in a very small area of south Devon- actually only seems to have really affected a few roads - was a problem with a valve and the water becoming infected in a very small reservoir- most locals think the BBC and Sky news blew up the issue and created much worse problems with tourism than the one with water. One particular journalist was stalking the local Facebook groups stirring things up. Nothing to do with which government was in power. Do you live in the area, how much do you know of what went on?

You don't get to tell me what my interpretation of those political questions is thanks. And me sharing my own opinion is hardly patronising.

I understand the Govn are stamping down on all benefit fraud. I agree this should be done as a regular thing and clamping down or investigating many many months after will put people in dire financial straights.

Is the alternative not to bother investigating at all.

Given far more women are carers than men I suspect that is why it appears women are seeing the brunt of these investigations. That’s not sexist.

Its very clear that everyone must keep up to date with their earnings if they receive benefits. It’s always been this way.