Is mumsnet right wing?

[BrilloPadHairball]

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

Yes, I have with work, there is a lot of dissatisfaction in the business community. Germany, has appeared more efficient, bright and shiny for a long time because a lot of its very being had to be reconstructed both after the war and the end of communism in the East, so it naturally appears more “modern”.

Have you visited many “third world counties” how incredibly entitled are you to compare Britain to one. Walk into your kitchen and turn on the tap!

Have they said how they will tackle any or all of these things? Are you just assuming that they will because they are 'Labour'?

Can you answer my previous 2 questions referring to the statements you made?

Not just Germany, was in France, drove over 2000 miles, didn't hit a single pot hole.

...and got a filling done, no waiting, 35 euros.

UK - no nhs, private would be, in Cornwall, £89 initial appointment plus whatever treatment costs, a small filling is £139.

the Tories have effectively given us a 100% insurance/self pay Dental service & if they get in again, it'll be a US insurance/self pay NHS too, only a very poor emergency service will be free at the point of use.

Women and children will be the worst hit.... but Labour threaten the country....

Tbh, I’m not that bothered by potholes compared to the significantly higher suicide rates in France than the UK.

Racism is at very high levels across the EU https://www.euronews.com/2023/10/25/shocking-levels-of-racism-rising-in-europe-finds-report

France also has an awful history of how they treat people who are disabled.

But hey as long as you don’t blow a tire on those pot holes on the toll roads. What a way to measure how good a society is!!!

Oh and I know you love the scare tactics of oh, private health will be a system like the US. You do know that the world has a plethora of public/private systems which would be the most likely models rather than the US of any remodelling of our healthcare system

i'm more left more libertarian. As i keep telling people. But i still don't think that TWAW so according to the New Rules Of Politics i am somewhere to the right of Margaret Thatcher.

Tell that to the people of South Devon?

3 weeks later and still over 2000 homes cannot drink water.

The amount of raw sewage pumped into our rivers and the sea is diabolical.

Companies allowed to pay huge dividends, whilst not investing in more modern treatment works, helped along by our planning regulations.

also can i just toss in here that despite what Adam Ryan said - it is not right wing to say that rights come with responsibilities. It is literally there in the very basic tenet of socialism:

From each according to ability, to each according to need.

That is chock full of responsibility as well as rights.

The evidence on health is there with what they given us with dental care.

I do like that you divert to racism, when i never even mentioned that...

UK roads, just like our crumbling schools and hospitals, will one day have to be fixed, there is only so much patching up you can do..... those 10s of billions to do so, will come from money that could have been spent on giving us decent public services.

Save your scorn for the family of an Afghan veteran who was recent killed after hitting a pothole...

Imagine you survive 3 tours in a war zone, only to end your life because of a fucking pothole.

Yes foreign investors look at a variety of things before deciding where to invest..... including transport, of which roads are vital

Oh hello, are you in South Devon? Actually the people of Hillhead)to which the book notice is still in place) can drink the tap water they just need to boil it, with the electricity/gas supply they have running into their fully equipped kitchens.

The boil advice came in last Thursday according to our local Facebook group. The issue has been quickly identified as a valve in the Hillhead resivoir. Those affected have been given between £115-£215 )last I saw) compensation. - probably picked the wrong person with that example tbh. Are you actually comparing having to boil the water in your tap having free bottled water delivered or picking it up from a car park on your car for a few days than a lifetime of walking 10s of miles to get dirty water with no means to boil it? Fucking hell- so much for the left being caring!!! Quite frankly that comparison is abhorrent.

I do have an issue with the amount of sewage sWW pump into the sea.

Actually the people of Hillhead)to which the book notice is still in place) can drink the tap water they just need to boil it, with the electricity/gas supply they have running into their fully equipped kitchens.

And that’s acceptable in the sixth richest country in the world? If you think it is that’s a fair indication of just how far standards have fallen. You could drink water straight from the tap when my dad was a kid in a mining village filling jugs from a communal tap.

Well said

Well you were the one who randomly brought up potholes so I assumed you wanted the discussion broadened out, so I raised more important matters!

Yes unfortunately people die in road accidents- terrible for the family involved.

so where do you stand on all the people in France who died by suicide?

Where do you stand on those people who have escaped war zones and finding their “safe countries” have terrible racism problems where they can’t even wear their religious dress?

Why are we suddenly talking about France? Other European countries with far higher standards than ours are available.

But it is a problem with an individual valve which has been identified and sorted, it’s not a problem with our water system.

yes your Dad grew up in a mining village where they could drink the water, probably helped a little with all the health issues they had.

I can walk up into Dartmoor and drink from a stream I’m not sure what point you’re making

Water investors have withdrawn billions, says research https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw4478wnjdpo

Why can’t we talk about France? Which countries would you like to discuss - might struggle to find one with Frances success with potholes which apparently is now how we are measuring the success and invest ability of a country

As I said I have an issue with SWW pumping sewage into the sea, we have the highest level of water rates too. I would also like a proper review of dividends, although these, of course prop up pension funds and help pensioners so difficult balancing act.

But these problems having been going on decades - what have Labour ever done to sort these thing out when they were in power?

Too busy creating illegal wars (probably one of the reasons your poor Afghan family had to flee)

French potholes are ok in posts but then you went too far ;

A lack of mtce appears to be the issue.... why wasn't telemetry installed on this valve so a fault could have easily been remotely reported?

The compensation will barely cover the energy costs for boiling all that water (bare in mind it was for washing too)

Personally, i'd not drink from a dartmoor stream, you never know what has ran off into, shit or died in it upstream from you....

No, nearby, just across the river in sunny SE Cornwall, where the stench from the River Tamar wafts through the air after any heavy downpour & where i ve been very ill after kayaking in the mouth of the Tamar at Torpoint.

your Dad grew up in a mining village where they could drink the water, probably helped a little with all the health issues they had.

It certainly didn’t do any harm. He lived to celebrate his 99th birthday. 🤷‍♀️

Well, infrastructure is rather important & roads are part of that or don't you think it is?

Who is Frances? is she a french road worker?

There may be no potholes [there aren't] but there are no edges to the country roads! When I have Brits over they spend the journey 'oohing' and 'That was close-ing' as you have to slow down and pull over to the side when someone is coming the other way, at speed. Many of them have red flags where the kerb would be as [especially this year] they have fallen into the ditches that drain the land.

France is not perfect, by any means. It isn't a land of cheese and wine and bread and no risks or issues. But I can see a doctor, I can call him up and the doctor answers the phone himself. I can get bloody test results by teatime of the day I went in. If I need a referral I'll be told they will arrange it and I'll have a text that day with the date and time, and I'll be given a hand written note to take with me, written by the doctor whilst I'm there. But I also pay a significant monthly fee for a mutuelle so that most of the cost of it is refunded or covered.

How did this topic even get introduced? They are literally like chalk and cheese.

Someone mentioned potholes. @Devonbabs talked about more and then it was why talk about France

A good example of why that yabu vote is 71%

Ah, I see. Silly me! Deep down, I knew suicide rates and racism wasn’t on Labours agenda. My cars suspension system has just signed up to the Labour Party though and dreams of giving Corbyn a smooth ride in the rear seat

I can get all those things too in the UK going through private health insurance.

France was introduced by some one else who was telling me it was loads better because it had less potholes and this was a significant factor in multinationals choosing to invest. I was pointing out I prioritised other matters like racism and suicide rates. Apparently they’re not relevant