Is mumsnet right wing?

[BrilloPadHairball]

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

No apology I suppose?

To be fair it is a bit confusing what you mean. Do you think the guardian is far left? Or centrist, but left leaning?

I think you’ve got that backwards. ‘Left leaning’ and ‘very far left’ are objectively very different things. it’s not me struggling With the concept of discussion. You can’t discuss if you can’t define terms.

2017 survey re peoples opinion on different newspapers re politics
Cant find a more recent survey

How about if he announced that, to speed the recovery of all hospital patients, the NHS would be accommodating everyone in single rooms?

Single sex wards definitely aren't any sort of panacea. Ask my mum, who's been kept awake night after night by the noise of other patients in her single sex ward.

The Guardian is radicalised far left extremist now. Used to be quite centrist with leftist leanings years ago. The only people who disagree are radicalised far left extremists. When they hounded Suzanne Moore out for asking some questions about sex being important they fell down a pit and have never recovered.

Of course I'm left wing on real left wing issues such as UBI, socialised healthcare, medicine, unions, fair wages, education - all the actual left wing topics. The problem is that radicalised far leftists now think that being left wing MUST mean identity politics and they all MUST agree on all topics and are totally tribal. God forbid you should say "I don't support Hamas they are a terrorist organisation" just watch the whataboutery and anti semitism erupt, and you will then have a radicalised far leftist screeching at you that you are right wing.

Any discussion at all of women's human rights or push back on anything the radicalised far left disagrees with automatically makes someone right wing in their eyes.

As a result, things like child safeguarding, not being in favour of prostitution and many other human rights issues are now seen by radicalised far leftists as right wing.

Which is rather bothersome for them, since these are just issues that all decent people wish to discuss and have a right to an opinion on - if they want everyone to think of the right wing as being those who will allow discussion and care about women and children's human rights they are going the right way (no pun intended) about it.

Well said. It seems to disagree with someone on MN is ‘right wing’. We can’t all be Tory voters or the current polls wouldn’t look like such dog shit.

What is it about the Guardian that makes it "Far left" to you? And what would "moderate left" and "slightly left of centre" look like in your book?

That graph’s really made me laugh. 12% of respondents think The Mail is to the left! 😂

Easier just to call this thread "Everyone I disagree with is literally Hitler" and be done.

Which means the vast majority know it skews to the right. Although, interestingly, the Australian Daily Mail is actually alt left.

I know !
but That’s exactly the point really.
One persons perception here on mumsnet will be different from another’s,

Noooooo

The issue is simply that radicalised far left extremists use the words left wing to mean entirely different things than what normal, average left wing people mean, and consider anyone who even asks a question far right. The traditional left wing and right wing voters have stayed fairly stable in their views, but now they're being told that standard long accepted left wing, moderate and right wing views are all far right.

I'm left wing. Properly so according to this long established quiz. https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

But radicalised far left extremists don't accept standard definitions anymore and have coopted language, confusing everyone.

Thanks for that self test @justafleshwound2024 .
Im dead centre of the green square which makes me Libertarian left.

My disagreements with many of Labours current ideas has indeed made others question my political stance. I’ll be interested to see how they do on your test.

I'm two squares higher than you, centred in the green square - so slightly less liberal than you, left wing.

I’ve just done a quiz called the quickest political quiz in the world.
Not as many questions and yours and much easier ones too and tbh I’m wondering if it’s a bit of a spoof thing, but anyway.
Apparently I came out as Progressive….like JFKennedy.

I don’t think my dh would agree at the moment given how much I harp on about Labours crappy stance on women though. Can’t wait to get him to do these, I’d wake him but he’s snoring so peacefully 🤪

Yeah, Labour losing women trends regularly on Twitter (not calling it X) for a reason :(

On another thread on MN called
are you going to vote in the next election based purely on transgender issues

whilst most are against Labours policy many women here on MN will, unfortunately, just deface their vote or not vote at all.

Thats very sad and I think pointless.

I think many are afraid to say anywhere public that they'll vote Tory based on women's policies. The usual suspects then accuse them of being single issue right wingers and start pile ons. It's difficult for many women to outright push back when they've been repeatedly instructed that this makes them cruel, phobic, selfish - even on social media under pseudonyms.

But voting booths are truly anonymous, so we'll see!

Even if the thread was full and each poster on there posted once, that would be 1000 people.

That's not ALL OF MN.

And they are perfectly entitled to vote for whoever is on the ballot. They are perfectly entitled to raise funds and put themselves on there.

People seem to think that because they think one thing, everyone should otherwise they are the scum of the earth.

That is not how democracy works.

@justafleshwound2024

I think many are afraid to say anywhere public that they'll vote Tory based on women's policies. The usual suspects then accuse them of being single issue right wingers and start pile ons. It's difficult for many women to outright push back when they've been repeatedly instructed that this makes them cruel, phobic, selfish - even on social media under pseudonyms.

You can vote for whoever you like, as long as you vote. Has anyone on MN ever used the words "cruel, phobic, or selfish" though? I haven't really seen that level of pushback here.

Leaning can be at various angles. I’m not sure what is so difficult to understand. I think the Guardian is so left leaning it’s almost on its side. Hopefully that has cleared up the matter for all concerned.

Thank you, that was exactly my point. Most people would see the Guardian as left wing. Yet if you’re far left it probably looks centralist. It appears there’s several far left extremists on here.

Thanks for sharing - interestingly for those accusing me as being “far right” I’ve come out as left libertarian which I think is fairly accurate.

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67