Is mumsnet right wing?

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There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

Apologies arabella im like a dog with a bone over that bloody split!

Sticking to the OP would be great.

True for a few pp

Oh my actual god

i don’t think MN is right wing, i think that when i started looking on here, and its one of my biggests regrets…think of all the books i could have been reading or the exercise i could have been doing (not), it was very very left wing and now its moved over a bit

but i still think its overall more left than right

In answer to the original question - LOL, No! Have you missed the endless Tory bashing posts, the constant "don't be racist, don't be ageist, don't be misandrist, don't be (insert phobia here) posts, the constant agreement that childcare should be basically free, and a million other Labour loving posts.

This site is centrist for the most part and leans far more left than right.

Yeah, I'd say it's roughly centrist. Be interesting to see the results of that last Mumsnet Census.

Great post
This is what worries me most, not whether or not I come across a trans person.

To return to the OP, I think there's increasing visibility of posts claiming that the country is full of benefit scroungers and increasing levels of suggestion that the vulnerable and disabled are a burden on society that we can't afford to look after, as well as more visible anti immigrant feeling.

The topic is "is MN right wing?" isn't it?
If so, it's inevitable that FWR will get brought up as the right wing and there are intertwined.
Oh and no, that doesn't mean I'm saying that "all feminists are right wing!" before anyone decides to misunderstand.

I don't know whether it is overall left or right wing. However, there are a lot of very right wing post nowadays. It's hard to tell whether that means a lot more posters are right wing or it's just that those who are are prolific posters. I think as MN has become more well known, it is being used to try and push certain agendas too. Many people have heard of it although it is generally considered to be a cesspit.

Eh? What on earth do you mean by this?

Yes as I said earlier it seems to be more emboldened lately.
Definitely more out in the open.
MN as whole site wide together though I don't think is right wing. There's a range of opinions

They know they can get away with posting quite objectionable stuff without it getting deleted. Probably because it keeps the number of posts up overall and therefore payments from advertisements.

They've been noticeably emboldened since Brexit and the election of Johnson.

I don’t think it was I’ve been here for ages. It wasn’t so political. It just wasn’t a dominating topic

Still a spread of votes I reckon, different feel to it though

I don't believe that pointing out factual occurrences is smearing.

But my focus is directed on this because, over and above the transphobia which I find abhorrent, I have grave concerns about the direction of travel on the board.

The transphobia can act as a gateway drug to the manifestation of other prejudices, and as a gay woman my community and I are impacted by this.

So yes, I will speak up and point out the problems as I see them.

Moreover, I just don't think the obsessive hostile focus is ultimately helpful. As I have pointed out time and time again, the countries doing best in the world for women are those that are also doing best for trans people and for gay people. There is a very rate of gender self -ID policies in those countries at the top of the table for women...look at the top 20 countries on any major reputable study measuring women's parity with men, and then see how many of them have policies of self-ID. It is startling.

Supportive countries for trans people are clearly not incompatible with women thriving, and women in these countries are thriving far better that women in the UK at the moment. The obsessive hostile focus is misplaced.

You’d need a poll same as op to compare. 71% yabu?

Obvs didn’t have it back then

Yes.

Many TRAs come onto the FWR board, post utter vile words, screenshot them and post them back to twitter in order to make FWR look 'transphobic'.

Many people report them. I never do because the reaction to their vileness shows that FWR in general isn't 'transphobic' but hey ho.

If you cannot delineate between actual users and outrage merchants then that's up to you.

coming from TRAs it really is too much that we are not allowed to define our own terms. "Scolding" is EXACTLY what it is. And along with the having made us have one tiny part of MN to discuss issues that worry us, calling us the c-word (three letter version) when we have repeatedly asked not to, trigger happy reporting etc etc

In the words of one of the Carry On films "They [the TRAs] don't like it up 'em"

I think MN is a bit like the BBC - the left think it’s biased towards the right and vice versa. To me that indicates both hit the middle ground. I definitely think MN has been more left leaning in the last couple of years but that’s hardly surprising with this shambles of a government.

Yes I would agree @BIossomtoes

The transphobia can act as a gateway drug to the manifestation of other prejudices, and as a gay woman my community and I are impacted by this.

well don't worry on my account. I'm a Marxist. Funny thing tho, it's EU elections next month, and as i was in town yesterday (I'm not in UK) i was stopped by the SPD (Like Labour - nominally centre-Left) and Die Linke (Left) to chat about what they're campaigning for. I tick all the boxes for Die Linke and just about all (i am against Self ID) with the SPD. I mentioned SelfID. Nobody threw up their hands and called me Right wing. We all agreed that in general in many societies there is a general shift to the right and that we need to get out with our socialist/socially democratic votes and do something about it.

I've been on a few anti-right demos recently. 100,000 people in Düsseldorf. That is where i am politically. On. The. Left. And from reading the FWR boards, and many other convos on here, my feeling is that in general MN is left of centre. Just because there is some crossover on maybe one or two (out of myriad other) issues, it doesn't make someone right-wing.

But in future i am going to call people like Matt Walsh left-wing because he doesn't agree that people can change sex. I feel confidently able to do that, given that I'm apparently hard right for believing the same thing.

Still a spread of votes I reckon, different feel to it though

more than likely, this is why i avoid all the ‘mumsnet has changed because….’ threads….i honestly don’t remember 😳

I definitely think MN has been more left leaning in the last couple of years but that’s hardly surprising with this shambles of a government

deffo

The transphobia can act as a gateway drug to the manifestation of other prejudices, and as a gay woman my community and I are impacted by this.

It really baffles me.

As an alleged 'gay woman' which could mean anything from 'female who likes other females' to 'heterosexual man', you spend all your time trying to take down women who DON'T want lesbian and autistic girls to be given off label cancer drugs that will rend them sterile. You are impacting your own alleged future and current 'community' with this utterly astoundingly behaviour.