Is mumsnet right wing?

[BrilloPadHairball]

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

Rather a self defeating attitude of yours don't you think? 🙄

You are clearly not familiar with that particular poster, that's all I shall say.

Which of my posts is not sensible or balanced?

I agree. It's so unhelpful, and I also think it's pretty unpleasant to delight in other people's misfortune. Why not, instead, listen to people's reasons and concerns instead of insulting them?

Not everyone who voted for Brexit is disadvantaged, but those who are were already suffering (due to being disadvantaged).

If someone votes a particular way (Brexit referendum or any other election), for some perhaps out of desperation and the hope it might've achieved less shit life circumstances, and that hasn't been the case why not have some empathy?

Whether Brexit or any other election, listen to other people's reasons and concerns, and if you think they're misguided, or you simply disagree with them explain why you disagree (without being condescending or dismissive or throwing insults).

Please tell me you can see the sheer fluorescent irony of that comment.

Come on now

Why do people fall for the government spin though? Although plenty of people on here seem to fall for the Rishi knows what a woman is bollocks enough to vote Tory. And they seem quite intelligent.

So some people on one thread commenting about one person's behaviour makes everyone right wing. Aye, thanks for proving my point so nicely.

Do you have to be right wing to think that a woman transitioning her child, and posting about it all over the internet thus making it harder for the chuld to wind it back later is not good? Crikey.

@hayleyrabbit but no one gloated over the referendum result. In fact it was leaver voters who did that. ‘You lost, get over it’ was a constant refrain. ‘Salty tears of remainers’ another.
The people who voted for it were the less educated as per research done at the time. A higher percentage of leave voters didn’t have O’levels, many were older voters who frankly didn’t understand the ramifications of leaving the EU. Why are you sugar coating it ? People really should take responsibility for their voting choices, otherwise it happens again and again. I live in an area massively hit by austerity. And yet I know people who voted for the very party who implemented austerity, staunch life long labour voters. They believed the Brexit lies.
And funnily enough no lol for me really. They got what they were warned about. In fact we all did whether we wanted it or not. And yes Owen Jones is a tosser.

Seems somewhere between commie and pinko to me.

@Againname if you lived up here in the red wall you’d look in bewilderment at people voting for the party that closed 2/3 of your libraries, 1/2 your Surestart centres and knocking £400 million off your town funding from central government, all the while blaming the EU and immigrants, no ?

@AdamRyan "This thing about Hitler being left wing has cropped up a few times now and is basically the ultimate DARVO"

Cf. Hitler was a vegetarian.

I'm not familiar with the vast majority of posters on MNet, yourself included. I mostly read posts and agree or disagree with the posts.🤷‍♀️ I am aware of the views of some longstanding posters who don't NC, but I don't stalk them across the boards. That would be weird.🙈

I think most posters have copped on to that shit by now.

We live in hope.

I think it’s mainly left leaning

but many left wing voters that like to be vocal hold some quite right wing views

especially seen when privilege is mentioned and a certain woman’s name

Tootiredforallthiscrap
The thing is that slowly areas that have traditionally voted for the Conservatives are being hit by Tory negligence. Like the emergence of cryptosporidium in Devon

So, the emergence of cryptosporidium in Northampton in 2008 was down to Labour negligence? Have you thought about voting for the Green Party?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/jun/26/health.water

Some people want to feel righteous more than they want to try and offer rational arguments, find compromise, and mutual ground. Its tribalism. 'Us and them' thinking.

@Noname1000 I'm not sure many people do fall for spin? On MN and offline there's lots of people saying they feel politicallly homeless. I think there's a lot of voting against rather than voting for, and also voting out of despair.

I'm not a politics expert though so don't know.

@Tootiredforallthiscrap if I wanted to know why loads of people voted a particular way, I'd ask them why, and why do they feel unwilling or unable to vote for the alternative? I'd listen to their reasons and concerns rather than insulting them or sneering about 'lack of intelligence' or saying people deserve to suffer.

People really should take responsibility for their voting choices,
I think political parties, elected representatives, and candidates, should take responsibility for people's voting choices. Listen to people's concerns and discuss options for compassionate solutions that take those concerns into account.

@ArabellaScott I agree.

Yes this is rife on MN.

Not sure I was suggesting that you should stalk anyone tbh - bit weird of you to think that?

@Tootiredforallthiscrapif I wanted to know why loads of people voted a particular way, I'd ask them why, and why do they feel unwilling or unable to vote for the alternative? I'd listen to their reasons and concerns rather than insulting them or sneering about 'lack of intelligence' or saying people deserve to suffer

This. The Labour Party had a massive disconnect with their working class voters with Corbyn and it was easier to dismiss them than listen to them. They have been treating women questioning gender ideology in the same way.

@Againname weird because the research involved asking ordinary people.
No one is sneering at anyone. No one is insulting anyone. The research done by many academics indicated that people in classes C2, D and E voted in favour of leave. It’s logical to want to know why people voted in their worst interests surely ?

@hayleyrabbit And remember that wc voters predominantly voted for Labour until Brexit so the disconnect with the Tories was pretty much universal, much like they are losing the mc votes in the shires now. Both major parties are struggling to connect with their old heartlands although Labour are now making inroads.

Northern, educated, middle class, pro Brexit, right wing.

The lefties shout louder on MN and think they have the moral high ground.

@JayAlfredPrufrock good for you. Not really. Your lot are in power at the mo but if Labour win (not a cert btw) no doubt you and your mates will be bellowing from the sidelines, joined by most of the mainstream media. I think some degree of moral high ground is deserved as I’m sure you’ll agree that the current party in power hasn’t behaved in exemplary fashion. How many MPs have been forced to resign for one thing or another ? (And yes I’m aware that labour has issues).
I think the issue with some conservative voters is that they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that the tories have made some huge mistakes and not used their time in power well.

Why shouldn't the lefties shout loud? I'm not seeing much for the right to shout about. Despite being in power for 14 years.

Hitler was the leader of...you might need to sit down...the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party.

I know, right?