To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?

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Hello hello? Kier? We’re here. We are right here. We are Women. Are you listening to us? Hello? Hello?

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I'm past caring about who the GC who are Tory voters anyway, and the small number of parents bleating about the proposals about VAT on school fees are going to vote for. They've made their choice as they have the right to do.

According to YouGov's latest poll a few days ago - 21% of female voters didn't know who to vote for (if there was a general election tomorrow) compared to 11% of male voters.

Um really don’t think the labour party will give a shit about your vote as pretty much the entire country gives a shit about far more froth worthy issues than the two you’ve mentioned. Most can see the political football trans right have become and the vast majority aren’t privately educated. Many will welcome VAT on private fees

I agree with this, there's just so many more important issues to me than private school fees and trans rights issues, the latter is just being weaponised to pit people against each other in my opinion as well.
Before anyone says "What's more important?"
At the risk of repeating myself, the state of the NHS, community services and help for new mums in the form of things like sure start centres, abortion rights (bodily autonomy) ......
Also whilst we're at it a shift in attitude to more like what it was like before Brexit, it just seems so much more intolerant and harsh since then, it seems to have emboldened hate.
Which we're just going to see more of imo if we get more of this shite in power who just stoke it.

😂🙈 frothing, bleating, what else? I can see why you don’t think valuing women’s sex-based rights is important.

And yet Cass is welcomed and the political change 🤔 Too noisy but getting somewhere, and all these compulsory threads which must be read

I'm much more bothered about the disability issue than either of the others and will wait to see what's in the manifesto and ultimately what is within the new government 's power when it's established what the state of the finances they're left with is. This government has however done nothing for disabled people and I doubt that the incoming Labour government will be anything like as bad.

He was Prime Minister though at the time of lockdown going on telly every night at 5pm to "stay at home, save lives!"
Then doing the exact opposite and partying, whilst others couldn't even visit dying relatives in care homes, or stuff others at home suffering mentally.
Disgustingly hypocritical.

This.

I hate what the Conservatives have done to the country and I would cut my arm off before voting for them. That doesn’t mean that I’m rushing to vote Labour. There’s nothing wrong with questioning or even criticising the policies of Labour or any party for that matter. It certainly doesn’t make one a raging Tory as some on this thread seem to believe.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight

But you are fine with Corbyn and Starmer socialising?

Bearing in mind that Keir Starmer tried to cover up how many people he was with. Also, the evening before Durham, Starmer ate at an outside restaurant and then posed for socially distanced, performative photos, wearing a thick jacket in the cold. The following evening he was eating a cosy curry inside, when he thought the cameras were not there. All about the optics with Starmer.

I'm sure if you have any evidence that the police investigation was improperly conducted you'll be alerting the relevant authorities.

That wasn't the point I was making.

Anyway, have fun - I have a busy weekend.

I thought you might 😁

But the fact he’s dropped it quietly without any explanation. Doesn’t bode well at all. It makes me incredibly sad to see how disabled people are treated in society. Everyone talks about DEI, but really it’s always fck the disabled people.

Like with women’s rights - disability rights - are just swept under the carpet. As a person deeply invested in both of those things, I cannot and will not vote Labour.

*I’m not saying tories are better wrt disability. Don’t use that.

Which party do you think will address disability interests more effectively?

Sad to say, I don’t think any of them will. No one gives a sht about disabled people.

I'm past caring about who the GC who are Tory voters anyway

How have you arrived at this gem? I'm GC and would never vote Tory. Like a lot of GC people I know.

I think people are delusional though if they think Labour are the saviour some posters are making them out to be (and will keep community centres open 🫤).

I said the GC who are Tory voters. I didn't say that all GC people vote Tory. However some have stated their intention of doing so (some of whom might well have voted Tory for other reasons anyway).

*Sex.

Hiding this thread now. Big waste of time.

A lot of people only have the choice of Tories or Labour which is why when someone says Labour will be crap at X issue so I won't vote for them, they point out where he Tories have repeatedly failed in that area.

A lot of people will be voting to get the Tories out. Better to have someone who might better than someone who definitely won't be.

Did it drill down into the reasons?

Oh dear, the Conservative party really is starting to show its desperation now.

Remind me again about the rape clause in the 2 child benefit cap?? How women have to prove their 3rd child is the product if rape.

Or maybe remind me who has defunded women's refuges?

Who defunded sure start?

Who started the whole housing crisis back in the 80s with right to buy??

Who has been in charge of the country while millions more have had to resort to food banks?

Want me to go on?? In case you hadn't realised Conservatives have been in power for over a decade, and all the gender ideology stuff has been under their watch

‘In case you hadn't realised Conservatives have been in power for over a decade, and all the gender ideology stuff has been under their watch’

Surely you must understand that the extreme trans ideology movement has been all over the western world for over 20yrs. Grown exponentially in recent years. Nothing to do with the tories.

If anything they’ve been a voice of reason - Cass, puberty blockers stop, closing the corrupt / unregulated GIDS clinic. Look at other countries they are a mess. Sadly that’s what will happen here with some women have penises Keir.

https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/2454-A-The-Corrosive-Impact-of-TI-ppi-110-WEB.pdf

"The average voter behaves differently from male voters in some ways. Women are disproportionately represented among undecided voters, and they tend to make up their minds who to vote for closer to election day. In 2017, for example, data collected in April and May in the run-up to the British general election showed that 18 per cent of women compared with 10 per cent of men said they did not know who to vote for." Article dated 2019. This is usual.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/the-womens-vote-is-a-myth-the-average-voter-is-a-female-voter

If anything they’ve been a voice of reason

They wanted self id in 2017.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/18/theresa-may-plans-to-let-people-change-gender-without-medical-checks

@blossom true. But then they changed their mind. Thank god.

https://wbg.org.uk/media/press-releases/with-25-of-women-currently-undecided-womens-votes-will-swing-the-next-general-election/

Some really interesting information here about women's voting patterns and priorities. Thank you for sending me down this lane @Clavinova , it's fascinating.

Given how demographics are tipping against them you can see why muddying the waters regarding the female vote would be so high on the agenda of some Conservatives.