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To ask what on earth do people who post about Palestine expect to happen?

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trekking1 · 15/05/2024 22:53

It seems that every time I log into social media there are so people constantly posting about how we need to free Palestine and condemning everyone who ignores their posts.

May I ask what do they expect posting about it will actually accomplish? Did I miss something and wars can be stopped with SM posts? If so, why are they not posting the same about Ukraine? There is still a war going on there...

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Opine · 16/05/2024 10:12

@Northernnature The European Jews that currently reside in Israel do not have a lineage spanning thousands of years. That’s simply not true.

Nctodayjan24 · 16/05/2024 10:22

stepfordblanket · 16/05/2024 09:56

We were only fed mainstream media 7 years ago?? In 2017? Are you serious? Twitter was already a decade old at that point. The Arab Spring in 2010-2012 was only possible because of organisation on social media. We’ve had access to live happenings on social for nearly two decades at this point.

Not entirely sure what being Irish has to do with anything. Ireland’s war time Nazi sympathies? Or is this like BambieThug bleating on about living under occupation despite being born in Cork over 70 years after the Irish war of independence? Lol.

OP - the Palestine posters on social are just engaging in bog standard slacktivism with a bit of Jew hate tossed in there. It’s telling how few of them mentioned any other atrocity before (or after) October 7, some of them actively cheering on Oct 7, as if violent rape and civilian murder are some noble form of resistance. And also how few of them ever even mention the hostages or acknowledge that Hamas is to blame because they entirely miscalculated and the rest of the Arab world are wholly uninterested.

To me the poster meant that being Irish we have grown up knowing about Palestine. I remember protests on a Saturday afternoon in Marks and Spencer in Cork City .
In other words this is not a trendy cause for us because let's face it it didn't start on October 7th no matter what posters here would like to think

ConnieCounter · 16/05/2024 10:26

stepfordblanket · 16/05/2024 09:56

We were only fed mainstream media 7 years ago?? In 2017? Are you serious? Twitter was already a decade old at that point. The Arab Spring in 2010-2012 was only possible because of organisation on social media. We’ve had access to live happenings on social for nearly two decades at this point.

Not entirely sure what being Irish has to do with anything. Ireland’s war time Nazi sympathies? Or is this like BambieThug bleating on about living under occupation despite being born in Cork over 70 years after the Irish war of independence? Lol.

OP - the Palestine posters on social are just engaging in bog standard slacktivism with a bit of Jew hate tossed in there. It’s telling how few of them mentioned any other atrocity before (or after) October 7, some of them actively cheering on Oct 7, as if violent rape and civilian murder are some noble form of resistance. And also how few of them ever even mention the hostages or acknowledge that Hamas is to blame because they entirely miscalculated and the rest of the Arab world are wholly uninterested.

Being Irish is probably relevant as one of the only European countries to be colonised. It gives Ireland an insight that a lot of places lack. Also, you're ignoring the small matter of 6 counties still being occupied. You might not view it as occupation, but many people do. There have been strong links between the Nationalist/Republican movement and the Palestinian movement for decades.

MineIsALemonFanta · 16/05/2024 10:28

I must admit I’ve wondered the same myself, OP. It feels performative. I don’t know what they expect it to achieve.

Opine · 16/05/2024 10:30

@Northernnature And whilst we’re here; where were Palestinians thousands of years ago? Where is their homeland?

Nctodayjan24 · 16/05/2024 10:37

MineIsALemonFanta · 16/05/2024 10:28

I must admit I’ve wondered the same myself, OP. It feels performative. I don’t know what they expect it to achieve.

Same thing the suffragettes, Rosa Parks, Ruby Bridges and the 1968 Columbia University riots hoped to achieve.
Starting a movement that will change attitudes.
Just because it's on Instagram and not running in front of a horse doesn't change the motivation. The world has changed and it's the youngest generation are leading it

I really don't get why people can't understand this. Should we all just turn a blind eye because you know ... Why bother

meisafairy · 16/05/2024 10:40

I’ll repost retweet and support anything that highlights the plight of those in Palestine.

I’m human and seeing this genocide unfold is horrific.

The people in Gaza don’t have the privilege of being born white and having white nations with a saviour complex help them.

Being born brown really makes you see the world in a different light almost feel like a underclass as if your life doesn’t matter.

If a tweet share, et cetera keeps the people of Palestines plight out there and it’s all good.

Not all Palestinians are terrorists.

I don’t take any sides in a conflict like this. All I see is the unjust nature of innocent people being killed on both sides which is barbaric.

Domtickandlarry · 16/05/2024 10:40

Starting with the end to slaughtering innocent children in their thousands would be a good start.
Why, OP, what do YOU think should happen? Continue the genocide until every Palestinian has fled or is dead? Then those Zionists who want a beach front holiday home can move in?

stepfordblanket · 16/05/2024 10:59

ConnieCounter · 16/05/2024 10:26

Being Irish is probably relevant as one of the only European countries to be colonised. It gives Ireland an insight that a lot of places lack. Also, you're ignoring the small matter of 6 counties still being occupied. You might not view it as occupation, but many people do. There have been strong links between the Nationalist/Republican movement and the Palestinian movement for decades.

By that standard there are countries with more relevant and current experience of colonisation in Europe. Wales, for one. Yet it’s only the Irish who constantly play the ‘occupation’ card. And as for NI, take it up with the Northern Irish who routinely poll in favour of remaining part of the UK.

The overwhelming majority of the current population of ROI don’t have experience of ‘occupation’ though, so they have no such unique insight. What they do have is a more recent history of sympathy with a foreign power with a stated goal of eliminating the Jews.

thisisasurvivor · 16/05/2024 11:12

MineIsALemonFanta · 16/05/2024 10:28

I must admit I’ve wondered the same myself, OP. It feels performative. I don’t know what they expect it to achieve.

Performative

Get a life would you

My god

Where is the compassion?!!!

ConnieCounter · 16/05/2024 11:25

stepfordblanket · 16/05/2024 10:59

By that standard there are countries with more relevant and current experience of colonisation in Europe. Wales, for one. Yet it’s only the Irish who constantly play the ‘occupation’ card. And as for NI, take it up with the Northern Irish who routinely poll in favour of remaining part of the UK.

The overwhelming majority of the current population of ROI don’t have experience of ‘occupation’ though, so they have no such unique insight. What they do have is a more recent history of sympathy with a foreign power with a stated goal of eliminating the Jews.

You should stop talking about things you know nothing about. Several bad takes there.

stepfordblanket · 16/05/2024 11:27

ConnieCounter · 16/05/2024 11:25

You should stop talking about things you know nothing about. Several bad takes there.

Where’s the lie?

peakygold · 16/05/2024 11:30

Didn't Hamas start it And now they are getting their butts kicked? The Palestinians voted for Hamas to lead them, so reap the wild wind, as they say.

therealcookiemonster · 16/05/2024 11:49

peakygold · 16/05/2024 11:30

Didn't Hamas start it And now they are getting their butts kicked? The Palestinians voted for Hamas to lead them, so reap the wild wind, as they say.

so according to you babies and children deserve to die because of what their parents did?
and the last election was a looooong time ago and FYI Netanyahu openly supported hamas in order to fund the PLO. so should his children and grandchildren be held responsible for that?

by your logic should we start killing all descendents of KKK supporters for example? how about the children of those who supported the IRA?

ConnieCounter · 16/05/2024 12:20

peakygold · 16/05/2024 11:30

Didn't Hamas start it And now they are getting their butts kicked? The Palestinians voted for Hamas to lead them, so reap the wild wind, as they say.

Wow, you managed to make the most genocidal comment yet on an already gross thread. Fair play to you.

Thulpelly · 16/05/2024 12:50

There is a big difference in the way the news has reported, and western governments responded to, the war in ukraine versus the genocide in palestine.

HarrietPierce · 16/05/2024 13:00

peakygold · Today 11:30

"Didn't Hamas start it And now they are getting their butts kicked? The Palestinians voted for Hamas to lead them, so reap the wild wind, as they say."

This child of Holocaust survivors shows so much more compassion than you.

https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1790441926694482105

https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1790441926694482105

FleursDeFilles · 16/05/2024 13:15

I am one of those people who posts on SM about Palestine. I don't ever post asking others to post though. But I will post about what is happening. I am careful not to share graphic images and I perhaps post something once a week on average. Other than a feeling of human empathy, it does also feel close to home for me because I'm Muslim. My reason is that I don't feel like it is being accurately reported in mainstream news.

And so, having said all of the above, I would also like to add that I am nervous about sharing this on SM. I think things like what will people think of me? Will they categorise me as an "extremist". Most of my friends don't share the same background as me and I don't want them to think something negative of me. In the 90s, growing up, I wasn't at all nervous about how people perceived my background, however, I increasingly stay quiet about being Muslim in public. I don't feel like we are moving in an inclusive direction and I do think the media and SM has a lot to do with that.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I did think hard about it before sharing anything on SM and I felt that it was a small way I could highlight what is happening.

Lookwhosbackbackagain · 16/05/2024 13:18

peakygold · 16/05/2024 11:30

Didn't Hamas start it And now they are getting their butts kicked? The Palestinians voted for Hamas to lead them, so reap the wild wind, as they say.

They were voted in once, in 2005 or thereabouts. It’s 2024 now….

FleursDeFilles · 16/05/2024 13:22

LakeTiticaca · 16/05/2024 07:20

Strange innit how's theres so little heard about the 300+ Nigerian girls who were kidnapped a few years back. Many are still missing. Very rarely hear any mention of them in the news.
I wonder why that is..........

I would say this is much like how many important things with the passage of time sadly get less air time. There are lots of sad and horrible things that we aren't speaking up about. I would say though, if there is something like this, then it's worth always voicing and not giving up on.

Perfectpots · 16/05/2024 13:23

trekking1 · 15/05/2024 23:03

I guess, if you can call "why are they not doing this pointless thing for something else" whataboutery 😂

Disagree think Echt has made a good point

Engaea · 16/05/2024 13:30

@meisafairy I agree not much is being achieved to help Gaza and it is horrifying but I wouldn't say "white nations" aren't interested. I hear a LOT about it. Sudan, on the other hand....
Why so catty about "saviour complexes" whilst advocating intervention?

kirinm · 16/05/2024 13:40

You don't remember the support for Ukraine which is ongoing? People taking in Ukrainians? The government permitting access to Ukraines?

What is it about Palestinians being murdererd that doesn't bother you OP?

kirinm · 16/05/2024 13:44

margymary · 16/05/2024 05:22

Far from an expert so hesitant to post , but wouldn't Hamas handing back the hostages be a good step?

Don't you read the news? The answer to your question is no btw.

kirinm · 16/05/2024 13:45

@sunnydaysanddaydreams because our government are actively supporting Ukraine? Rather than actively supporting Israel in the atrocities it's carrying out?