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To ask neighbour not to smoke in his own garden?

187 replies

fope · 14/05/2024 09:24

We live in a flat in converted townhouse. We are on the second floor. Neighbour is in the garden flat (not shared garden). Our bedroom is at the back of the house.

As it’s getting hotter, we need to have our bedroom window open all night.

Garden flat neighbour is a heavy smoker. He stands in the french doors of his flat and smokes “out” into the garden (if that makes sense).

The problem is, that the smoke rises up and it makes our bedroom stink. Three mornings in a row we have woken up to a bedroom smelling of cigarette smoke.

AIBU to ask him not to smoke in his garden? Or at least go somewhere else where it won’t rise up into other people’s homes. Other people in our building have also commented on this.

OP posts:
Beryls · 14/05/2024 18:18

I think it would be reasonable to ask but depends what he's like? I'm a smoker and the last week I've been going down to the bottom of the garden as neighbours have had their windows and patio doors open with it being warm and wouldn't like it to blow into their houses. I wouldn't be offended if a neighbour asked me to do this if I hadn't already thought of it myself.

Missindependent007 · 14/05/2024 18:36

fungipie · 14/05/2024 17:53

I used to smoke. OP is not asking neighbour not to smoke in his garden, but perhaps to smoke in a different area where it would not affect OP, or less.

I don't smoke and I wouldn't ask anyone to move in a different part of their garden,it's like saying can you not drive when I am around because the smell of fumes and the smoke will get in my lungs.

HollaHolla · 14/05/2024 18:38

I would hate it too, but I don't think you can ask him to stop smoking in his own garden. I hate the smoke too. 😣

rwalker · 14/05/2024 18:39

Depends how you ask
I certainly wouldn’t ask for no smoking in garden
perhaps say not directly under the window

liquoricetorpedoes · 14/05/2024 19:03

My Mum has lung problems and an allergy to cigarette smoke (it’s a nightmare) and has had this with a neighbour. They were asked politely if they would mind smoking away from her property and it has caused huge issues with them calling her totally unreasonable and entitled. So based on our experience, you can ask but I don’t hold out much hope.

maddiemookins16mum · 14/05/2024 19:34

YANBU and I’m a smoker. He knows where his smoke goes….up, it’s not rocket science to know it will waft into the windows above.

Whatthebarnacles · 14/05/2024 19:38

RosieTheChi · 14/05/2024 18:10

@Whatthebarnacles You can't smoke anywhere outside. Only on public land. Smoking is not allowed outside hospital doors or in a garage forecourt.

I think you know what I meant. I'm talking about gardens and streets

RosieTheChi · 14/05/2024 19:52

@Whatthebarnacles It still doesn't hurt to be considerate of other people.

SabreIsMyFave · 14/05/2024 20:19

fungipie · 14/05/2024 17:29

Because YOU smoke, everyone else has to close windows and not have fresh air in ther house or flat. Wow - what a selfish, horrible T**t!

This. Why the fuck should anyone have to have a stuffy house, with NO fresh air blowing through - just because of some selfish stinky inconsiderate arse puffing away at a stick of nicotine? Some - not all - but some smokers are such vile and selfish individuals.

Like the idea of the fan blowing OUT of the window... Like fuck would I be wasting my electric running a fan to blow the bloody smoke away, because some selfish tic-turd next door decides to smoke near my window.

@fope You absolutely have to ask them (nicely) to smoke as far away from your house (and windows) as possible.

bloodyplumbing · 14/05/2024 20:22

@SabreIsMyFave I'm anti smoking, but you cannot demand that they stop!

You're being ridiculous and may have to use your electricity or shut your window. Saying you're not going to, only impacts you, your choice. The tic turd can politely decline your request.

It's not illegal!

Chatonette · 14/05/2024 20:28

Our neighbours smoke in theirs, and are thankfully in the process of moving out. I never did say anything, but it really bugged me.

Copenhagener · 14/05/2024 20:49

You can try. But don’t expect much. In my last apartment the upstairs people constantly threw fag butts down onto their neighbour’s balcony below - and they landed in a baby’s pram and started to burn. Luckily the mother was there and managed to get baby out before too much damage was done.

They continued hurling them down onto the neighbour’s balcony even after that - and being asked to stop by the housing association.

Also for people saying there’s no risk: third-hand smoke drifting into a bedroom and sticking so badly it’s notable the next morning can be dangerous, especially to children.

coldcallerbaiter · 14/05/2024 20:52

Ask nicely and bring a present, you never know he might move further away to smoke.

SabreIsMyFave · 14/05/2024 20:53

bloodyplumbing · 14/05/2024 20:22

@SabreIsMyFave I'm anti smoking, but you cannot demand that they stop!

You're being ridiculous and may have to use your electricity or shut your window. Saying you're not going to, only impacts you, your choice. The tic turd can politely decline your request.

It's not illegal!

The tic-turd won't have a very enjoyable smoke when the cigarette has been soaked by the hosepipe.

SabreIsMyFave · 14/05/2024 20:55

@Copenhagener · Today 20:49

You can try. But don’t expect much. In my last apartment the upstairs people constantly threw fag butts down onto their neighbour’s balcony below - and they landed in a baby’s pram and started to burn. Luckily the mother was there and managed to get baby out before too much damage was done.

SOME smokers in a nutshell. Rude, arrogant, selfish, and inconsiderate.

Thank fuck the Government has put measures into place to make sure that eventually, no-one will be able to buy cigarettes.

bloodyplumbing · 14/05/2024 21:03

@SabreIsMyFave sweetie it says he is standing inside his house blowing the smoke outwards!

Are you going to go down from your upstairs flat, with your hose pipe attached to your water supply and go into his garden and do that?

Good luck with that, but I'm not sure you run the world just yet?

You may find yourself arrested.

rwalker · 14/05/2024 21:48

SabreIsMyFave · 14/05/2024 20:53

The tic-turd won't have a very enjoyable smoke when the cigarette has been soaked by the hosepipe.

As much as you don’t like it you can’t go spraying people ( you wouldn’t get the cigarette without the person ) with hosepipes

there doing nothing illegal breaking no laws so you are at the mercy of there good will and cooperation

speak to people aggressively and like shit not to mention spraying hosepipe it’s highly unlikely they are going to do you any favours and cooperate

probably have the opposite effect and make them do it even more

your completely powerless in this situation so I wouldn’t be pissing them off

Willywaitingforbreakfast · 14/05/2024 21:49

I'm a non smoker and feel your pain but you and others are being unreasonable

Ladyzfactor · 14/05/2024 22:02

LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 14/05/2024 17:30

Why the faux-naiveté? The point was that most people pollute by doing things that are purely for their own pleasure and it is hypocritical to single out smokers when other activities are worse in terms of pollution yet deemed acceptable.

I wouldn't try to reason with them. They responded to me to me and seemed a little bit understanding but then edited their comment trying to be snarky and cool. I'm thinking teenage edgelord.

Cuckoochanel80 · 14/05/2024 22:50

YABU

nildesparandum · 14/05/2024 23:25

My NDN smoke weed in their garden, two generations of them and beside young children as well. They also smoke nicotine so both smells combine.
Nothing I can do about it as it is their garden.

Rookangaroo4 · 14/05/2024 23:28

That must be awful. Honestly I’d just mention it to him. I used to smoke and used to smoke out of my back door. If a neighbour had mentioned the smell was floating in their house I would have definitely moved out of the way.

NeilTayloriscatwit · 14/05/2024 23:30

Ask him, if he's reasonable he'll move away from the door, I would if you'd asked nicely, except if it was bad weather then you'd have to suck it up unfortunately

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