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To ask neighbour not to smoke in his own garden?

187 replies

fope · 14/05/2024 09:24

We live in a flat in converted townhouse. We are on the second floor. Neighbour is in the garden flat (not shared garden). Our bedroom is at the back of the house.

As it’s getting hotter, we need to have our bedroom window open all night.

Garden flat neighbour is a heavy smoker. He stands in the french doors of his flat and smokes “out” into the garden (if that makes sense).

The problem is, that the smoke rises up and it makes our bedroom stink. Three mornings in a row we have woken up to a bedroom smelling of cigarette smoke.

AIBU to ask him not to smoke in his garden? Or at least go somewhere else where it won’t rise up into other people’s homes. Other people in our building have also commented on this.

OP posts:
PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 14/05/2024 14:55

Yellowhammer09 · 14/05/2024 09:49

I don't think you'd be unreasonable to ask if he can smoke at the other end of the garden. Any normal person would understand. Yes, it's a private garden but it affects his neighbours.

This. You definitely wouldn´t be unreasonable to ask.

Whether he´ll actually do it (and to what extent) is a different question, obviously.

LordPercyPercy · 14/05/2024 14:59

*Smokes are selfish by nature. That’s just fact.

Inflicting your pathetic addiction upon everyone else is a selfish act.*

I totally agree. And not just that - they enjoy their eleventy-million a day fag habit and drop dread of a stroke and break everyone's hearts. Selfish fucks.

qpid5tunt · 14/05/2024 15:01

Put a fan by your window so it blows the smoke away. This also works to stop warm air coming into your room😀

BettyBardMacDonald · 14/05/2024 15:13

As a former smoker, I wouldn't mind a polite request and would accommodate it if possible. I wouldn't hike to the rear of my garden for every smoke. But I would be more cognizent of weather, wind direction, etc. and try to minimize the problem.

Also suggest that a fan at the window could solve most of the problem. And it will draw air through the house.

OPOPONAX4 · 14/05/2024 15:16

I doubt he will stop. But you can ask.

Buy a couple of Dyson fans and keep your windows at the back shut. The Dyson fan really does cool the air.

Look into getting an electrician to fit a fan under your window so the smoke blows back into his house.

At least it’s not skunk. Could be worse I suppose!

ThatLibraryDebate · 14/05/2024 15:22

No harm in pointing it out and asking him to smoke out the front door or at the end of the garden. I'm afraid if he doesn't change his behaviour it's tough luck for you though.

I'm so bloody sensitive to the smell of cigarette smoke that I am SO grateful that none of my immediate neighbours smoke. If you're like me you may find that him moving to the end of his garden won't make much difference and you'll smell it anyway. I'd keep the bedroom windows closed and see if you can get ventilation /air movement from elsewhere in the flat.

Chocolatedinosaurs · 14/05/2024 15:29

I have this problem too but it’s not a flat. My next door neighbour sits on the wall in between our gardens. When my baby was born I asked them if they would mind smoking at the other side as it was a heatwave and wanted to have our window open a bit. They said yeah they minded as can’t sit at the other side and they smoke so much more now in the summer. I’ve just had to learn not to open my windows at the front of the house.

EmpressSoleil · 14/05/2024 15:30

Myself and my next door neighbour live in converted houses, 1st floor upwards. As such, we share a fire escape at the back, leading down to our separate gardens.

It would be handy for me to smoke on the fire escape by my back door, but I don't do it because the neighbours often have windows open and I know the smoke would drift in. So I go downstairs to the garden. They've never asked me to but I think it's the right thing to do. So no, we're not all selfish.

OP, I would ask in a nice and polite way. It's true he could say no of course, but if you don't try you don't know.

The only people I don't care about bothering with my smoke is those who have the attitude of some pp's (you can always tell) who just see us all as inconsiderate assholes! I treat people how they treat me. I wouldn't refuse a genuinely nice request to move away.

GingerPirate · 14/05/2024 15:34

We are all human beings, some of us grumpy....
Me.
I would like not to have screaming children in the next door garden, however, I wouldn't ask.
I think this is similar.
As my late father said, it doesn't work with people and it doesn't work without them.
😁

MargoLivebetter · 14/05/2024 15:34

You can definitely ask and he can definitely say no! You'd both be within your rights to do both those things and neither of you would be being unreasonable. It's got to be worth a shot.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 14/05/2024 15:38

I'd ask him if he would kilns moving down the garden a bit.

FangsForTheMemory · 14/05/2024 15:47

MsLuxLisbon · 14/05/2024 09:58

YABU. He is entitled to smoke on his own property. I disagree with those who say that it doesn't hurt to ask. If you asked, you'd be a CF imo.

Do you smoke, by any chance?

OP I would ask him if it’s possible for him to walk down the garden a bit.

Terrribletwos · 14/05/2024 15:52

Yellowhammer09 · 14/05/2024 09:49

I don't think you'd be unreasonable to ask if he can smoke at the other end of the garden. Any normal person would understand. Yes, it's a private garden but it affects his neighbours.

This. I smoke but I would totally understand that it may annoy upstairs neighbours if I was smoking below and I would move to another part of the garden.

Shoxfordian · 14/05/2024 15:57

There's nothing you can really do about it op, you can ask him to move but he may not

PoppyCherryDog · 14/05/2024 15:58

I’d absolutely hate this too but unfortunately I don’t think you can do anything

JamieJ93 · 14/05/2024 16:01

I smoke,
In the garden ( as my husband is a non smoker and I am a decent person)
If it was bothering one of the neighbours and they asked me to try and smoke in a different place then of course I would try to as again, I am a decent person.
To the pp who said smokers are selfish and aren't decent people get off your high horse and stop tarring everyone with the same brush
We aren't all down and outs as you seem to perceive us peasants

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MsLuxLisbon · 14/05/2024 16:12

FangsForTheMemory · 14/05/2024 15:47

Do you smoke, by any chance?

OP I would ask him if it’s possible for him to walk down the garden a bit.

Actually, no, I don't. I just recognize the limits of what people can and can't ask other people to do, and I don't think that OP is within her rights to ask him to stop, at least not if the situation is just how she outlined. She needs to close her window.

Cannotbeasked · 14/05/2024 16:13

EmpressSoleil · 14/05/2024 15:30

Myself and my next door neighbour live in converted houses, 1st floor upwards. As such, we share a fire escape at the back, leading down to our separate gardens.

It would be handy for me to smoke on the fire escape by my back door, but I don't do it because the neighbours often have windows open and I know the smoke would drift in. So I go downstairs to the garden. They've never asked me to but I think it's the right thing to do. So no, we're not all selfish.

OP, I would ask in a nice and polite way. It's true he could say no of course, but if you don't try you don't know.

The only people I don't care about bothering with my smoke is those who have the attitude of some pp's (you can always tell) who just see us all as inconsiderate assholes! I treat people how they treat me. I wouldn't refuse a genuinely nice request to move away.

This.i am a smoker and I always smoke away from my neighbours open windows or if they are in theirgarden. Really absolutely fine to mention it .Just because someone smokes ,doesn't mean they are awful human beings !

Boomer55 · 14/05/2024 16:18

Whatever you think, and it may be valid, smoking is a legal pastime, and he’s in his own garden.

You have no legal grounds for complaint,🤷‍♀️

Hatfullofwillow · 14/05/2024 16:48

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Perspective.

LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 14/05/2024 17:26

It would annoy me too, smokers are so selfish. They don't have a right to pollute other folk's air even though they think they do
Does anybody thinking this own a car?

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 14/05/2024 17:27

@fope sorry but I would be giving you short shrift!!! just close your windows!

Getonwitit · 14/05/2024 17:29

His garden his choice. You need to close your windows and turn the fan on.