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What is wrong with some women!

343 replies

Alltheshoes74 · 13/05/2024 10:08

Went out for a few cocktails with my husband Saturday evening, we were sat at the bar having a lovely time. I went to the loo and got chatting to some girls in there. Later in the evening they passed us and said hi and stopped for a chat. One was local and one was not - the local girl was mid 30's, single mum. We are older - she could be my husbands daughter! I didn't notice anything odd then as we left it turns out she asked my husband for his number!! What on earth! I mean his ego is now bursting out but we were amazed at the absolute brazenness of it all. Am still horrified that someone would do that - even when i was young and single I'd never dream of doing that.

OP posts:
Trulyme · 13/05/2024 16:06

I hope that DH misunderstood or the woman didn’t realise you two were in a relationship with each other.

I know some women would ask for a married man’s number but I’ve never heard of someone asking when they’re sat next to the wife!!

Did DH not immediately get up and leave once she said it?
Or did he carry on sitting there chatting to her like normal?

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 13/05/2024 16:09

I'm shocked people are finding it so hard to believe.

Some people just don't care. They go after what they want. It must produce results on occasion or they wouldn't being doing it.

Mothership4two · 13/05/2024 16:16

MumblesParty · 13/05/2024 16:03

@Mothership4two however much sense it might have made, that isn’t what happened!

Redundant statement [explanation mark]

It would have made more sense factually

Probably the reason some posters have had difficulty getting their head around OP's initial comments was that she was seemingly oblivious to what was happening right next to her - she has gone on to fill in some of the blanks.

QWERTYoutside · 13/05/2024 16:17

I def believe this .. some people, not just women, have no standards and will try to take what they want.

EmpressSoleil · 13/05/2024 16:19

I believe you/him. I'm of average looks but have twice dated good looking men. With both, women have blatantly made moves on them in front of me. They'd clearly looked at me and decided they had a shot. I'm not able to laugh it off. It damaged my self esteem and all that kept running through my head was that if they were willing to do that in front of me, what would happen when I wasn't there! It made me paranoid and insecure.

Now people will probably say that's "my" issue. To a degree yes it is. But it's these women that made me feel that way. I did trust the boyfriends, to a degree. They never did anything to encourage it when I was there. But they were just boyfriends, we weren't married or in significantly long relationships where trust has been built up.

I don't have good looking men beating down my door, especially nowadays. So not so much of an issue but it did put me off dating someone who was "too" good looking afterwards. I don't need that kind of stress in a relationship.

Sorry, but I do think it's despicable behaviour. Whether it's a woman or a man. If someone clearly has a partner then people should respect that. Because it's the right thing to do.

MariaLuna · 13/05/2024 16:23

It was the absolute brazenness of her thinking she could do it that horrified me

Some women will stoop very low.

IcedPurple · 13/05/2024 16:28

GaryLurcher19 · 13/05/2024 10:37

What did she actually say, OP? Because it's not impossible that your DH could be mistaken about her intentions.

Not impossible at all.

In my experience, it's actually quite likely.

Mothership4two · 13/05/2024 16:29

Back in the day I have had women flirt with OH right in front of me (yes he's a looker too - in fact I think he is gorgeous😉). Drink is such sa disinhibitor. I wasn't outraged, I found it funny. I would sit back and let her get on with it usually with a big grin on my face. I knew I had nothing to worry about. OH, once he had cottoned on (he can be a bit slow in that department), would look pretty awkward and there was a lot of eyebrow signalling going on until he'd say "right Mothership let's go and dance or whatever!". Chances of a 30 yo women doing that to him now are slim though! 😆

BustyLee · 13/05/2024 16:29

I understand your frustration. This used to happen to me when I was with my ex husband. I don't think he got as much attention when he was single as he did when he married me. It was something to do with him being a bit younger than me and, in some people's eyes, better looking than me. It was as though many women, especially younger women, were outraged and thought well, if he's with her I (being younger/better looking) must stand a chance. Unfortunately, my ex wasn't like yours and took up several offers. They did me a favour, though. He turned out to be horrendous - the cheating was the tip of the iceberg.

notyetretired · 13/05/2024 16:31

That's really awful but totally believe it, some women (and men) have no moral compass whatsoever. I've heard friends who this has happened to.

I guess there are plenty of women out there who accept and go into relationships with (knowingly) married men. Obviously shit by the husbands but equally shabby by the women imo.

Doubly upsetting as you'd built up a rapport with them, so even worse. Sorry you had to go through this, OP.

Mothership4two · 13/05/2024 16:32

QWERTYoutside · 13/05/2024 16:17

I def believe this .. some people, not just women, have no standards and will try to take what they want.

Yes some people of both sexes will try it on. It seems to me though that the majority wouldn't dream of acting so underhand though IME.

MsCactus · 13/05/2024 16:32

5128gap · 13/05/2024 11:50

Its nothing to do with all men are bad. It's to do with a bunch of women who all at some point have been young women, some who still are, who know young women and what is usual amongst them, who may be married to middle aged men, and the collective experience that tells us how very very rare it is for young women to give out their numbers to men their dad's age in front of their wives.
When you're presented with a situation that's as rare as hens teeth, but could be interpretated in a way that would be much more typical, it's human nature to consider the more likely may be true.

Exactly this. I've also had multiple men try it on with me, I've turned them down, then they go around telling everyone I was obsessed with them/harassing them because they're so annoyed.

OP may be telling the truth, but a young women hitting on a man old enough to be her father IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE is a bit bizarre and unlikely tbh, even if he looks like George Clooney.

BustyLee · 13/05/2024 16:36

MsCactus · 13/05/2024 16:32

Exactly this. I've also had multiple men try it on with me, I've turned them down, then they go around telling everyone I was obsessed with them/harassing them because they're so annoyed.

OP may be telling the truth, but a young women hitting on a man old enough to be her father IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE is a bit bizarre and unlikely tbh, even if he looks like George Clooney.

I don't understand why you don't believe this. A lot of affairs start because younger women make it absolutely clear to older men that they're up for it. Have you really never come across this in your life? Really? I've witnessed this many many times. And if you read my post above have actually experienced it. Unlike OP's post I had the experience of young women flirting with my exh right in front of me as though I wasn't there. Awful.

Sweden99 · 13/05/2024 16:37

I think, there are young women who prefer much older men. Not many, but about 1 in 10.
They have a terrible selection. Most middle aged men are married. Of the single ones, many will have been ill or poor and have ended up divorced. Others are likely to be out of shape, or a bit odd. Once you are down to single, successful, charming middle aged men, the selection is very poor.
I (man) was single for a while as a middle aged man. That teenage women are early twenties women would often be very forward with me, was bizarre. I am nothing special at all, the sort of man that would be on the "I suppose he might do - back up list" for women my own age.

SabreIsMyFave · 13/05/2024 16:39

Did you actually HEAR this woman ask your husband out/ask him for his number @Alltheshoes74 ???

OR is it second hand information from him?

SabreIsMyFave · 13/05/2024 16:41

@MsCactus · Today 16:32

Exactly this. I've also had multiple men try it on with me, I've turned them down, then they go around telling everyone I was obsessed with them/harassing them because they're so annoyed.

OP may be telling the truth, but a young women hitting on a man old enough to be her father IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE is a bit bizarre and unlikely tbh, even if he looks like George Clooney.

This. ^ In spades. Young women generally don't go hitting on men old enough to be their father 🙄 If they do, it's probably for a dare, or a bet, or because they're desperate. Methinks the OP's husband made this up. To try to make her jealous and insecure.

ilovebrie8 · 13/05/2024 16:42

That's awful OP! do you know her if she is local?

SerafinasGoose · 13/05/2024 16:42

pontipinemum · 13/05/2024 15:43

She sees what you have and wants it and is willing to break you up to get it.

She's a -whatever word you are allowed use these days- when I was a teenager we'd probably have called her a skank.

I've had men try chat me up a few times when DH (then bf) was away from the table so they clearly knew I was with a bf. Some people just don't give a cr*p

What she is, is a complete stranger.

She's spent what? - 5 minutes? - in the company of OP and her DH, and should be taking up preciesly that amount of time in their headspace.

She's completely inconsequential in their lives. Unless they make her so.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 13/05/2024 16:49

WTF?!!! Who the hell does that?! I don't understand a lot of these responses at all. Who the hell tries to hit on a man who's clearly with his wife?! That's really low.

Alltheshoes74 · 13/05/2024 16:50

ilovebrie8 · 13/05/2024 16:42

That's awful OP! do you know her if she is local?

No, never seen her before - we rarely go out where we live

OP posts:
BrendaSmall · 13/05/2024 16:51

Shiningout · 13/05/2024 10:17

It's not really a big deal I'd just laugh it off. Plenty of men give their numbers to others on a night out. She probably had too much to drink and had the beer goggles on

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MsCactus · 13/05/2024 16:53

BustyLee · 13/05/2024 16:36

I don't understand why you don't believe this. A lot of affairs start because younger women make it absolutely clear to older men that they're up for it. Have you really never come across this in your life? Really? I've witnessed this many many times. And if you read my post above have actually experienced it. Unlike OP's post I had the experience of young women flirting with my exh right in front of me as though I wasn't there. Awful.

I mainly don't believe this because Ive had some horrible experiences of married men pursuing me. Then when the wife finds out, they've told her they have no interest and I won't stop pursuing them.

Genuinely before I met men like this I probably would've thought the same as you. Now I find it hard to believe.

All the wives believed their husbands btw. Despite the fact that I'd even had to go to HR about one of them who I worked with, to try and get him to stop.

GingerPirate · 13/05/2024 16:55

YANBU.
I am very happily child free, married and as I got older, realised I probably wouldn't be able to trust any man to have a child with.
Maybe my husband, but that ship has sailed.
😊
Reality.

SecondClassmyass · 13/05/2024 16:57

I had it too, a girl came over to my then fiance at friend’s birthday party, stroked his forearm and asked if he was a rugby player, and would he be interested in a threesome with her and her husband. I know because I was standing by the bar watching them.
On another occasion a different girl told my husband that ‘she would’ if he were single, I was standing behind them chatting to a friend.

MsCactus · 13/05/2024 16:58

@BustyLee Just to add to this - I have had women drape their arms across my own DH/hit on him. But they've been the same age as him. When there's a huge age difference IMO it's usually older men pursuing young women. The stats on harassment etc bear this out - very, very rare an attractive young women is hitting on an old man her father's age who has seen better days