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What is wrong with some women!

343 replies

Alltheshoes74 · 13/05/2024 10:08

Went out for a few cocktails with my husband Saturday evening, we were sat at the bar having a lovely time. I went to the loo and got chatting to some girls in there. Later in the evening they passed us and said hi and stopped for a chat. One was local and one was not - the local girl was mid 30's, single mum. We are older - she could be my husbands daughter! I didn't notice anything odd then as we left it turns out she asked my husband for his number!! What on earth! I mean his ego is now bursting out but we were amazed at the absolute brazenness of it all. Am still horrified that someone would do that - even when i was young and single I'd never dream of doing that.

OP posts:
tuvamoodyson · 13/05/2024 17:01

Wingingnoise · 13/05/2024 12:00

There is a restaurant near me that employ very beautiful waiting/bar staff, expensive place, attracts the wealthy. One waitress was known for being on the lookout for a partner from the client base. One night she slipped her number to man who was sitting at a table with his wife. She didn’t realise he was an investor in the restaurant. She was sacked that night.

That sounds like an urban myth.

azlazee1 · 13/05/2024 17:05

I think I would be amused and maybe a little pleased that he's mine.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 13/05/2024 17:08

I mean his ego is now bursting out but we were amazed at the absolute brazenness of it all

His ego is bursting because a woman young enough to be his daughter apparently asked him for his number? If this happened and he was amazed at the brazen behaviour after he'd said 'No' to this woman, why is he so pleased about it?

On any other day, posters would be talking about 'creepy men' in the context of your husband's bloated ego but... this is MN, home of the hatred for any woman who might be an OW, even if they are not.

5128gap · 13/05/2024 17:09

BustyLee · 13/05/2024 16:36

I don't understand why you don't believe this. A lot of affairs start because younger women make it absolutely clear to older men that they're up for it. Have you really never come across this in your life? Really? I've witnessed this many many times. And if you read my post above have actually experienced it. Unlike OP's post I had the experience of young women flirting with my exh right in front of me as though I wasn't there. Awful.

Where are you going that you see all these affairs starting and are actually witnessing young women instigating them with middle aged men? Genuinely curious because I was once a young woman, and I now know lots and lots of young women, socialise and work with them, get out and about all over the place, but have genuinely never witnessed a young woman starting an affair by pursuing a middle aged man. Not saying it never happens but I'm curious as to how you have personally repeatedly seen it happen. Do you mix in circles where the older men are very rich?

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 13/05/2024 17:13

AgnesNaismith · 13/05/2024 10:19

I would be asking my husband about the words used in that exchange.

Even if she was trying it on with him YABU to ask what is wrong with some women. The problem is that woman in that circumstance.

Exactly- it's not like it's unheard of for men to be sleazy 🙄

MrsCherryCrest · 13/05/2024 17:15

I had a similar experience when on a night out with my exDH. We were sitting together in a booth at a bar and there was a woman doing her best to catch his eye and dance provocatively near our table. It made me cringe. I’d never try and flirt with a man sitting with his wife. He was too busy looking at the band playing to notice but I remember thinking she had some bloody cheek. Some women are just callous bitches.

ilovebrie8 · 13/05/2024 17:15

Alltheshoes74 · 13/05/2024 16:50

No, never seen her before - we rarely go out where we live

Some women are predatory....nowadays anything goes complete lack of morals!

It is weird after they were friendly and chatting to you in the toilets...wonder what her game was/motive to do that?!

bows101 · 13/05/2024 17:22

Some women are just that brazen and straight forward especially after a few drinks

But if your husband told you she asked him, surely there was some context to the conversation they were having ie a reason for keeping in touch? What were they talking about? Or was it a general chit chat and she was prob thought he's a nice/funny/whatever guy I'll ask him for his number type of thing?

BustyLee · 13/05/2024 17:24

MsCactus · 13/05/2024 16:53

I mainly don't believe this because Ive had some horrible experiences of married men pursuing me. Then when the wife finds out, they've told her they have no interest and I won't stop pursuing them.

Genuinely before I met men like this I probably would've thought the same as you. Now I find it hard to believe.

All the wives believed their husbands btw. Despite the fact that I'd even had to go to HR about one of them who I worked with, to try and get him to stop.

Please re read my post. I don’t just “think”this I have experienced and witnessed it. Of course men pursue young women. I remember a man trying to get me into bed so took hold of my hand and turned my engagement ring around so that the diamond was out of sight. There are a lot of skanky men AND women out there.

BustyLee · 13/05/2024 17:25

The men don’t do it in front of each other though. Presumably because it could result in a punch up.

Brawcolli · 13/05/2024 17:43

Pixiesgirl · 13/05/2024 10:13

Probably got an onlyfans that is not very populated with fans.

That seems like a weird leap

LaurieFairyCake · 13/05/2024 17:45

That's bloody terrible 😞

Bewareofthisonetoo · 13/05/2024 18:01

I had this with my ex. Really astounding how brazen people can be.

Simonlebonbon · 13/05/2024 18:07

It's less shocking when men do it, we've much lower standards and its pretty common. My best friend left a function early a few weeks ago because some sex pest who's wife was with him, kept winking at her and trying to give her his number when his wife was in the bathroom.
She said it just ruined the vibe of the party for her.

When I was out on a date once some woman on a hen do asked me was he my partner, I explained it was our second date, she said, "so it's fair game?", and proceeded to dance around him and at one point (this I promise is the truth, not a lie, mere exaggeration, just fact) took out one of her breasts and licked her nipple whilst winking at him.
She then tried to start a fight with me.
Unfortunately for her, it was in the pub I worked at and her and her hens were thrown out. I felt bad for the woman who's hen it was, but she was just gross.

The bloke wasn't exactly Brad pitt, just a quiet night and he was one of the few men in there. Wish they'd got together tbh, would have saved me a few months of his bullshit.

I don't think scummy behaviour is specific to sex, both are equally capable of shit behaviour.

RosaMoline · 13/05/2024 18:09

I swear there are more and more made up threads on the increase.
Didn’t happen.

Sweden99 · 13/05/2024 18:10

MsCactus · 13/05/2024 16:58

@BustyLee Just to add to this - I have had women drape their arms across my own DH/hit on him. But they've been the same age as him. When there's a huge age difference IMO it's usually older men pursuing young women. The stats on harassment etc bear this out - very, very rare an attractive young women is hitting on an old man her father's age who has seen better days

I (man) have been hit on by very attractive women young enough to be my daughter, and I am not a great catch.
The bulk of young women would obviously barely notice I exist. It is a small minority of women who are into much older men.

CombatLingerie · 13/05/2024 18:20

Yes@RosaMoline I will be filing this one in my folder marked ‘Things that didn’t really happen’ 😂

Icantpaint · 13/05/2024 18:20

This site is mental
must be him at fault somehow.

im a bloke. I’ve had women ask if I’m single, then say “take my number anyway” when I say I’m not. It’s not like it happens every week but it’s not vanishingly rare either.

ComfyButFrumpy · 13/05/2024 18:21

How old is your husband, op?

MelifluousMint · 13/05/2024 18:26

5128gap · 13/05/2024 17:09

Where are you going that you see all these affairs starting and are actually witnessing young women instigating them with middle aged men? Genuinely curious because I was once a young woman, and I now know lots and lots of young women, socialise and work with them, get out and about all over the place, but have genuinely never witnessed a young woman starting an affair by pursuing a middle aged man. Not saying it never happens but I'm curious as to how you have personally repeatedly seen it happen. Do you mix in circles where the older men are very rich?

I fancied an older (much more senior) colleague at work before– I was about 27, he was prob about 40. I liked his personality – he was a good egg, funny, sociable – he was successful (nowt to do with money, maybe more to do with status, respect for him professionally, the self-assurance and energy that comes with it), and nice eyes, not the same looks wise as guys my own age, but I found him attractive.

Perhaps not quite as big a gap as OP is talking about.

I didn’t start an affair with him! And wouldn’t pursue someone married. But was interested when he got divorced a bit after.

Also dated someone about 37 when I was 19 – just because he was fit and I fancied him (didn’t see him as suitable relationship material with the gap – obvious inadequacy on his part to be not dating someone closer to his age).

Most of my boyfriends have been about 5 years older (ie pretty much the same age).

NotJohnMajor · 13/05/2024 18:32

Stravaig · 13/05/2024 14:57

Brutally OP, the only people who have an obligation to respect the marriage vows you and DH made to each other are you and DH.

Nothing to do with the rest of us. We can merrily request numbers all night long if we want to. It won't matter a bit so long as you and DH stay true to each other.

Social mores try to cultivate deference to a visible partner or wedding band, but don't really succeed, because society at large hasn't made you any promises, and has no responsibility for your marriage.

100% agree - sorry, OP - random woman owes you nothing.

Newname71 · 13/05/2024 18:32

Pixiesgirl · 13/05/2024 11:01

I have honestly had a young drunk girl kiss a guy I was dating on the lips in front of me, it wasn't because she fancied him, some odd dominance behaviour.

I went to a ticketed New Year’s Eve party with DH a few years ago. There was a woman sat next to him that he happened to have dated briefly in his teens. She was leaning her head on his shoulder and saying “I wonder what would have happened if we’d stayed together, I wonder what our kids would have looked like!” Fortunately I’m not the jealous type and just found it a bit tragic.

Newname71 · 13/05/2024 18:40

ThisNoisyTealLurker · 13/05/2024 12:20

I think YNBU but I think I’d find it funny and a bit flattering that my husband is that attractive! It’s all in how you take it, see it as a funny thing that happened.

Sometimes it’s not funny though 🤔. My DH is a very handsome half Italian man (fuck knows what he’s doing with me 🙃). We were in a pub one night and the barmaid (who was his mum’s neighbour and had talked to his mum about how attractive DH is) glared at me all night and then when I went to the bar she turned her back on me and walked away. It was a very uncomfortable night for me!

biscuitsnow · 13/05/2024 18:42

Brutally OP, the only people who have an obligation to respect the marriage vows you and DH made to each other are you and DH

Nothing to do with the rest of us. We can merrily request numbers all night long if we want to. It won't matter a bit so long as you and DH stay true to each other

Social mores try to cultivate deference to a visible partner or wedding band, but don't really succeed, because society at large hasn't made you any promises, and has no responsibility for your marriage

Whilst this may be true, who the fck would want a man who cheats so easily on his partner with a stranger?- like, really, you think thats such a prize example of a real man?

Bloody hell some people's standards are lower than the floor.

WTAF.

BMW6 · 13/05/2024 18:44

I reckon she was touting for business OP.

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