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to think friend should give me her Taylor Swift tickets?

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ticketproblems · 11/05/2024 22:45

I am a huge fan and signed up to all the presale access codes for UK and close by European countries. The only one I got a code for was a nearby EU country. I felt this was fine as DH and I like to go there and it’s not far away. So I bought tickets, which were in the local language and I was in a panic, which happened to be the expensive, tier 1 tickets for standing right by the stage. I didn’t see an issue overall because I was excited to go.

With an access code you can purchase up to 4 tickets, I bought 2 as that’s all I needed. My best friend and her (then) boyfriend (he was a bigger fan, she likes Taylor but never been too into her) didn’t get tickets to the UK events they signed up to and asked to use my code to buy 2 more tickets, if any were available.

I managed to get them 2 tickets (after spending hours in the virtual queue for them) on VIP which were seated, they’re decent. All was fine, he paid. They then broke up and he let her keep the tickets (presumably because he broke up with her and it’s her friend’s account)

Now I am pregnant and will be in my third trimester, just able to fly still, when the concert comes. I have attempted to contact the event for months about accessibility and been thrown pillar to post, I hope to swap them for accessibility but time is running out. My friend is now bringing new boyfriend and has seated tickets. My friend is fit, healthy (recently ran the marathon) and has no issues with standing, albeit preference is seated.

AIBU to think that she should offer to swap my (better) tickets for hers? It will come down to whether or not I can go. I will not go if I’m standing, this would be idiotic for my health and baby’s. So far, it’s silence and she just said it’d be a shame if I had to miss it.

My reasoning is 1) she only got the tickets because of me and 2) she didn’t even pay for them, her ex did. I also wouldn’t think twice about doing this the other way round.

I can’t tell if I’m being an entitled brat or if it just seems unfair.

YABU- get over it, sell your tickets.
YANBU - a good friend would do this. Especially one who isn’t a big fan.

OP posts:
Timeforsnacks · 12/05/2024 17:49

Even if you exchange for seated tickets, everyone around you will be standing if they are physically able, I'm sure your view would likely end up being blocked anyway so you would stand during most of it. Id just go standing like I have to many gigs. On the day of your friend asks you to go sightseeing before it starts tell her you could go if you were in the seats later and see what she says.
I recommend a belly band to help with the standing pressure x

Hotttchoc · 12/05/2024 17:51

The thing is if she hadn't brought tickets with your code you'd still have the same tickets you can't use and it's kind of tough luck you're pregnant but I honestly don't think that should mean your friend has to give up her tickets.

DragonFly98 · 12/05/2024 17:53

Decoart · 12/05/2024 16:31

That's great to know thank you. She has mobility issues due to where the tumours are, but we should be able to manage.
She is utterly determined to go even if I have to carry her in!!
Anfield were lovely on the phone and said their Stewards are there to help.

It is rubbish you could get not get a wheelchair spot the issue was as all accessible seats were sold via phone only you had to ring hundreds of times for hours to try and get through. I am disabled and have been to a concert at Ainfield before and the stewards were the nicest they had been at any venue. Do you have a blue badge or are you getting public transport? If you do ring LFC direct on the disabled supporters number and ask to go on the list for the free onsite parking. It's not guaranteed but they will phone I think next week to allocate spaces , so if that's something that would help ring first thing tomorrow.

Starlight330 · 12/05/2024 18:05

ticketproblems · 11/05/2024 22:59

I’d actually have to refund her ex 😂

I just wouldn’t hesitate the other way round, even if I really didn’t want to stand. It’s more of a friendship AIBU than a moral or obligatory one. She is my best friend / maid of honour and I’m disappointed. I can’t be excited at all because I’m so worried I won’t be able to go.

We had a miscarriage before and so this baby is a long sought after blessing. I know it’s my fault for getting pregnant and not being able to stand but currently I have two seated tickets in my name meaning that Ticketmaster and the event won’t help me, because I can use those!

Third trimester, going to a raucous concert would be the last thing on my mind. I'd sell them🤷‍♀️

Starlight330 · 12/05/2024 18:06

Timeforsnacks · 12/05/2024 17:49

Even if you exchange for seated tickets, everyone around you will be standing if they are physically able, I'm sure your view would likely end up being blocked anyway so you would stand during most of it. Id just go standing like I have to many gigs. On the day of your friend asks you to go sightseeing before it starts tell her you could go if you were in the seats later and see what she says.
I recommend a belly band to help with the standing pressure x

🤦‍♀️

Hoardasauruskaren · 12/05/2024 18:39

Decoart · 12/05/2024 08:01

@Nanaof1 We have tickets for Liverpool in June which is 4hrs away from us. Luckily we have family we can stay with and seated tickets. Anfield have said to speak with Head Steward on the day for help.

She will of just finished a Chemo cycle so hope she will be well enough. Accessibility tickets would have helped.

Swapping to Wembley would have given her more time to recover. Ticketmaster didn't even pretend to try and help. We can show her diagnosis was months after buying the tickets.

Her survival rate is less than 30%,.probably more like 15% in the next 5 years, so not even a case of waiting for next TS tour.

So sorry to hear this ! I hope you make the gig & you all have the best time making memories! Ticketmaster are just awful for not helping out in this situation! Wishing your family all the best❤️❤️

Hadjab · 12/05/2024 18:43

EnglishBluebell · 11/05/2024 23:48

  1. I wouldn't be going to a concert if past 3 months pregnant. I was advised not to by my consultant as they've very recently discovered that extremely loud noises during pregnancy, such as concerts, can damage baby's hearing.
Before I get told by people on here that this is nonsense, just a quick google confirms this.
  1. Am I the only one stunned by the number of grown adults going to teeny pop concerts? Taylor Swift is aimed at pre-teen/teen girls. I would side-eye anyone over, say, 17-ish listening to Taylor Swift or any other cheesy pop.

I can’t stand Taylor Swift, but that is such an idiotic statement. Please cite your sources that state what music is to be enjoyed by which age groups! By your ridiculous thought processes, no one under the age of 40 should enjoy Coldplay, and God forbid you not be in your hundreds whilst listening to a bit of Beethoven 🙄

5YearsLeft · 12/05/2024 18:50

@ticketproblems Maybe tons of people have pointed this out, but please be aware, and this is VERY, VERY important, that just because your travel insurance isn’t invalidated by pregnancy, does NOT mean it covers childbirth. 99% do not. Which is why you hear these stories of British couples on babymoons to wherever who have the baby early and end up owing hundreds of thousands. You MUST know the deal with both your insurance and the law of the country the show is in. It’s great that they have good healthcare, but what would it cost you? Only members of the European Economic Agreement qualify for healthcare under the same terms as locals in a place like, say, Sweden. As for Portugal and Spain, I don’t know.

Winnersgame · 12/05/2024 19:42

YABVU. You bought standing tickets, your friend bought seated tickets because she wanted to be seated. They are not your tickets and you are being very entitled thinking that you should use them. You are relying on the fact that she won’t be able to go unless you go but it seems that this may not be the case. You should be doing all you can to make sure that your friend can go if you are not able to, not concentrating on how you should have her tickets.
Also, being in the third trimester, I would think it’s better not to go to a very very busy concert after flying. I would be very worried about being in large crowds and potentially being pushed or shoved. I can only state my personal experience of this when I went into labour prematurely after flying in my third trimester. I wish you all the luck with the rest of your pregnancy and your much wanted baby but YABVU.

catcurl · 12/05/2024 19:53

I think you are being reasonable OP.

Haven't read the whole thread but I would say:

-I've contacted them again, they've said that as all tickets are on my code, I will need to swop tickets with you to be able to access a seat.
-Alternative option is that I cannot go, and will need to sell all of the tickets in that case

I would just spell the situation out to her! And say when you need an answer by.

Concannon88 · 12/05/2024 20:17

How is standing at a gig bad for yours and your baby's health?

TrailOfTime · 12/05/2024 20:23

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spritebottle · 12/05/2024 20:28

Concannon88 · 12/05/2024 20:17

How is standing at a gig bad for yours and your baby's health?

Is this even a real question lol... Would you go clubbing in your 3rd trimester? It's not like people hyped up on adrenaline and willing to do anything to get a view of their idol are gonna stand like statues at a concert they've paid insane amounts and waited months for lol.

Apart from the crowd hazard there's also the summer heat - I often read about concert overheating, dangerous crowd conditions etc

spritebottle · 12/05/2024 20:31

@EnglishBluebell your info is vvv outdated - I'm not a TS fan but she was targeting my age group when I was a teen, so most of her fan base have grown up = $$$

Literally first Google result says only 20% of her fanbase are teens. About half are millenials (like TS herself who's 34)

Starlight330 · 12/05/2024 20:32

3rd trimester & acting like you can throw caution to the wind proves common sense doesn't always prevail

kkloo · 12/05/2024 20:53

spritebottle · 12/05/2024 20:28

Is this even a real question lol... Would you go clubbing in your 3rd trimester? It's not like people hyped up on adrenaline and willing to do anything to get a view of their idol are gonna stand like statues at a concert they've paid insane amounts and waited months for lol.

Apart from the crowd hazard there's also the summer heat - I often read about concert overheating, dangerous crowd conditions etc

Edited

In fairness there would be loads of space at the back of standing, they're not going to be crammed in on top of each other unless she went further into the crowd.

I've never been seated at a summer concert in heat but I've had to sit at football matches in the sun and it was horrific, at least with standing you could move around the back and try to find somewhere more cool and can be away from everyone.

Proudbitch · 12/05/2024 21:16

I feel like a lot of people posting are also not aware how hard it is to get these tickets for Taylor Swift!

OPs friend had no way of getting them without OP. OP has done a MASSIVE favour by getting her friend any tickets at all.

when you are applying for Taylor swift tickets (or lots of big name things anyway) you just grab the first available seats, no matter the cost. OP’s friend I assume knows a little bit about this but didn’t have to go through any of the ‘stress’ of it so is the entitled one!!!!

and to add, they won’t let you take your own seat into Wembley stadium 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious how ignorant a lot of MNers are on this. It isn’t Glastonbury!!!

ticketproblems · 12/05/2024 21:27

Theedgeoftheabyss · 12/05/2024 17:04

There's no lead booking rule anymore. She can go without you.

Why does everyone assume I must be incompetent?

it’s been confirmed in live chat and written at the end of my tickets at this very moment when I log into them.

to think friend should give me her Taylor Swift tickets?
OP posts:
ticketproblems · 12/05/2024 21:29

Hotttchoc · 12/05/2024 17:51

The thing is if she hadn't brought tickets with your code you'd still have the same tickets you can't use and it's kind of tough luck you're pregnant but I honestly don't think that should mean your friend has to give up her tickets.

I could have used my code to get seated (cheaper) tickets as they released more (once I knew I was pg) but you still needed a code and sold my VIP. Because I gave her my final 2 tickets, I couldn’t do this.

OP posts:
kkloo · 12/05/2024 21:30

Proudbitch · 12/05/2024 21:16

I feel like a lot of people posting are also not aware how hard it is to get these tickets for Taylor Swift!

OPs friend had no way of getting them without OP. OP has done a MASSIVE favour by getting her friend any tickets at all.

when you are applying for Taylor swift tickets (or lots of big name things anyway) you just grab the first available seats, no matter the cost. OP’s friend I assume knows a little bit about this but didn’t have to go through any of the ‘stress’ of it so is the entitled one!!!!

and to add, they won’t let you take your own seat into Wembley stadium 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious how ignorant a lot of MNers are on this. It isn’t Glastonbury!!!

Edited

Yes and presumably the friend and the ex were very grateful when she did the favour for them and then the ex paid for the tickets and then they owned them.

If the OP had said at the time she was going to keep those ones and sell them the standing ones then that would have been fine or maybe even preferable if the boyfriend was a huge fan, but she sold the seated tickets instead.

ticketproblems · 12/05/2024 21:31

5YearsLeft · 12/05/2024 18:50

@ticketproblems Maybe tons of people have pointed this out, but please be aware, and this is VERY, VERY important, that just because your travel insurance isn’t invalidated by pregnancy, does NOT mean it covers childbirth. 99% do not. Which is why you hear these stories of British couples on babymoons to wherever who have the baby early and end up owing hundreds of thousands. You MUST know the deal with both your insurance and the law of the country the show is in. It’s great that they have good healthcare, but what would it cost you? Only members of the European Economic Agreement qualify for healthcare under the same terms as locals in a place like, say, Sweden. As for Portugal and Spain, I don’t know.

Yes of course, first thing I looked into. I’m covered both by insurance and the European agreement. I travel a lot so I’m insured to my eyeballs.

OP posts:
ticketproblems · 12/05/2024 21:36

Sorry realised I should answer the main q: whether the girls sit together and boys stand. DH has suggested this since day 1, he would have a good time but isn’t a die hard fan and just wants me to have fun. Had I not been pg he’d probably have told me to have a girls weekend instead. However, I obviously need to travel with him now and we’ve booked flight / hotel.

DH would still be fine with enjoying the city (he loves it there) and selling his ticket. The Bf would not and isn’t ok with not being with friend. There’s a backstory here but he’s basically a red flag. So it’s not an option.

OP posts:
Winnersgame · 12/05/2024 21:47

ticketproblems · 12/05/2024 21:29

I could have used my code to get seated (cheaper) tickets as they released more (once I knew I was pg) but you still needed a code and sold my VIP. Because I gave her my final 2 tickets, I couldn’t do this.

That’s a decision that you made to help your friend. She is not responsible for your choices and she shouldn’t have to give you her tickets. She wanted to be seated so she booked seats.

3luckystars · 12/05/2024 21:53

Right that makes sense, her new boyfriend is calling the shots.

Id say you haven’t a hope of convincing her so, she is desperate to please him.

Well good luck with that. She is not having much luck with men is she?

spritebottle · 12/05/2024 21:57

Winnersgame · 12/05/2024 21:47

That’s a decision that you made to help your friend. She is not responsible for your choices and she shouldn’t have to give you her tickets. She wanted to be seated so she booked seats.

That's theory but practically speaking I think the fact that OP has to be physically present (unless ticketmaster change rules in future) also for friend to attend links their choices/fate