How the erosion of LGBT rights effects female sex based rights.

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I've been reading various discussions and articles on this topic for some time and the conclusion that keeps popping up in my mind is the worry that my female rights will be as much eroded as LGBT rights in law.

I've seen a push in America especially Florida from activists and lawmakers, combining female and LGBT rights in the same grouping. In the UK, politicians are taking American policies. They are calling for diversity and equality to be dismantled in law. It's like time is going backwards in just on LGBT rights but on female sex based rights. Where less rights will exist for us females in the future to do subjects such as STEM or be Astronaut because of the stereotyping happening from suppose feminists who's concepts are the old typical stay at home leave the male to do the dangerous or go to work mentally.

My daughter is 8 years old and and I worry for her, to not able to have the right to do express herself as bisexual or lesbian because of erosion of LGBT rights. We all know homosexuality a long time ago was illegal and that can happen again for all LGBT rights. I worry that my daughter who loves space won't able to follow Rosemary Coogan become an astronaut which is something she dreams of because in the future people will say the radiation of space is too dangerous for females as they will get deformities in that area to prevent them for having babies or healthy babies. Science has disprove this but people are dismissing science now.

As much as I care and support about sex based rights, I can't forget the thought in my mind that my and my daughter's female rights are in as much danger of being taken away not by activists but by lawmakers who enforce sex based past stereotyping and us females lose equality which has been hard to fight for in the first place.

I'm so worried for the future for us females.

Which bit don't you understand ...?

Any of your word salad. What rights to bodily autonomy are you talking about

Do you not know what bodily autonomy is?

I do t know what rights you are referring to. Just name them ...

I'll jog on thanks. Have fun.

Those tweets though?

Thanks for proving my point, I appreciate that🤗

That's a no then. OP is right, the future for women and girls is in trouble.

Goady sealioning springs to mind here. Please ignore.

I take it that you have seen the footage of TRA's abusing and assaulting women?
I would also like to know what bodily autonomy rights trans people have that men and women don't?

Have you seen that several other posters have already tried to detract from the point of prominent GC feminists supporting abusers and/ or right wingers? I'm not sure why you think TRAs doing it makes it ok? I don't support anyone abusing women and I'm certain my principles can stand without the support of those who do. It's a shame many with a public platform don't think the same.

Lampy123678 · Today 11:29

Does it concern you how many people in the first group you describe agree with some women's attacks on the LGBTQ community?

Goodness! What a load of emotive, utterly hyperbolic clap-trap! Nobody's getting cosy with the far right, or religious extremists. And the GC side isn't anti LGB, nor even anti trans, just pro keeping males out of female spaces and business.

Speaking of JKR do you applaud her for supporting abusers?

Do you applaud yourself for punching kittens? How and when has JKR supported abusers?

No, because you don't have your examples of them critiquing the right wing parties and their actions against LGBT people and women do you?

In this country, right wing parties in power only include the Tories. What actions are they carrying out against the LGB and the TQi+++ lot? It's dishonest to lump LGB people in with TQi+++

Do you mean acting on the Cass Report, to row back on handing out puberty blockers like Smarties? On all the law cases, where women have been bullied and harassed by colleagues, with the support of the employers and have won, establishing the fact that it's legal not to use opposite sex pronouns, if you don't want to?

Stopping males pushing women and girls out of sports? Not allowing transw rapists to choose to serve jail time in women's prisons? Finding that rape victims shouldn't be forced to share a crisis centre with a bloke called Sharon, or be illegally excluded?

What does this mean?

Are you talking about children or adults?

But you have called JKR a supporter of an abuser, and have made the same 'mistake' that you have claimed others have by linking completely different issues.

Just because someone on the right right is GC doesn't mean that someone that is also GC supports all of their policies or beliefs.

I'm sorry, I didn't see your edit before before I quoted you. I'm referencing GC posters and politicians arguing against access to trans healthcare. I think, while perhaps we'll meaning, arguing to limit the bodily autonomy of others is dangerous to women and girls. It makes bodily autonomy seem like a privilege and not an absolute right.

It does when an anti abortion right wing politician quotes you whilst passing an anti lgbt piece of legislation and you say nothing. She also just publicly supports men who abuse women so there's that too.

There's a difference between me and a right winger both like X. Of course that doesn't make us the same. But if the right-winger is boosting my online profile or expressing support for me publicly I'd happily tell them to do one and not want to be associated with them.

She also just publicly supports men who abuse women so there's that too.

Really? Link, please.

Why won't you clarify what you mean?

Adults are free to pursue medical treatment if they choose to.

The Cass report made it very clear that there was insufficient robust evidence to support social or medical transition of children.

Do you think we should provide treatment which maybe harmful?

Don't you think that gender confused young people deserve well researched health care?

But everybody is limited to various forms of healthcare unless they are Gillick competent and in the same way that doctors can prevent treatment if they believe that it is not in the best interests of the patient.

Protecting women's rights should not be contingent on women accepting the sexist misogyny of gender identities.

The people who connect the two are acting in bad faith. They may spout forth about feminism and equality but by their actions betray that that they do not see women as deserving social support and legal protections in their own right, but only as a reward for their support of more important causes.

I'm not sure what you are finding so confusing and want clarified. I believe in bodily autonomy. I think people should make decisions about their own bodies regarding their healthcare and that the state and it's political opinions shouldn't interfere. What is so hard about that for you? Maybe you need to go and have a read on here and see people arguing that trans people shouldn't be allowed to be pregnant if you're so confused about why I think some GC people fight against bodily autonomy.

There will always be a small group of people making noise about this.

Thats a world away from it being debated as government policy.

Please show evidence that this has been debated by the government/parlament

No-one has said that trans people shouldn't be allowed to get pregnant. Posters have correctly stated that trans women can't get pregnant because they are of the male sex.

I asked you if you were talking about children or adults. You still haven't answered.

The confusion with pregnancy arises when someone claims to be so distressed by the reality of their physical body that they need to undergo radical body modification for their own wellbeing but then feels comfortable doing the most female thing of all.

I don't think they should be stopped but I do have questions about how any medication they are taking may affect a baby and why the NHS should fund reassignment treatment when a planned pregnancy seems inconsistent with a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

You mean except the GC people who do court the support of right wing groups? And Nazis? Or the several threads on here encouraging women to vote Tory because of their opinions on GC issues regardless of how awful they have been to women? Ok..

A simple example is JK Rowling publicly supported Johnny Depp despite knowing his abusive towards Amber Heard.

The Tories have done absolutely f*ck all for women or our rights. Austerity has been deadly for women in the UK. Austerity in general I feel is responsible for many issues GC feminists are so worried about because they aren't funding the services that should be keeping dangerous inmates out of women's prisons and there isn't any bloody funding going to crisis centres. They have done nothing in their years in power to decriminalise abortion and it took over a decade for the buffer zones to be passed and even then they watered it down. I take issue with "feminists" encouraging people to vote for them as though it is in women's interests when it's not. Just because they say what you want to hear about public toilets while doing NOTHING to progress women's rights.

I'm baffled at how women are losing the right to "do STEM" as I'm not sure that is something that is specifically referenced in equality laws.