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To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]

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Eshmee · 09/05/2024 21:20

Having watched her interview this evening, everything about her screamed 'liar'. Her language, her demeanor, her body language. I just wonder what other think?

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Pupinskipops · 12/05/2024 01:31

0tterish · 09/05/2024 21:43

It was difficult viewing. I wonder why she thought it was a good idea to have an interview with him. And why was she so cagey about the degree? Why did she not just make up the grade if she didn't do it

To be fair I think that was a communication issue. PM was pressing her for a grade and she keep saying she didn't get Honours. So she she got an Ordinary degree which isn't graded - just pass or fail. That was PM's misunderstanding (I don't think he has a degree), and one of the few things she answered correctly, apparently.

MercyDulb0ttle · 12/05/2024 07:20

Seriestwo · 11/05/2024 19:24

Janey Godley is no stranger to Twitter stooshies, usually creating them.

that will be interesting to watch, I don’t think Janey has ever backed down from any bandwagon since she started on Twitter.

Janey Godley is firmly TWAW and an unfunny, unpleasant woman.

burnoutbabe · 12/05/2024 09:11

JeepSleeHack · 12/05/2024 00:29

@pootlin I think even a rookie lawyer could secure a win for FH in the courts for defamation. The problem would be that FH herself - shes is so unwilling to admit the parts she is guilty of (the thousands of messages being the obvious example) that she just wouldn’t make a credible witness.

Or she wins and gets £1.
Defamation is an expensive business. And Netflix want to protect their right to make based on true story stuff.
They could offer say £10k to settle and if she carries on then, bears both sides legal costs if she wins less than £10k.

NonPlayerCharacter · 12/05/2024 09:13

MercyDulb0ttle · 12/05/2024 07:20

Janey Godley is firmly TWAW and an unfunny, unpleasant woman.

Fun fact...before she got famous, she turned up on an American forum I used to use, trying to promote her Edinburgh show. She couldn't have picked a worse audience for her brand, trust me, and she got exactly the reception I expected. As I was one of the few female users, a lot of them thought I was her and that I was trolling them.

Raffles76 · 12/05/2024 09:30

0tterish · 09/05/2024 21:46

I thought Piers was enjoying it and I think he's an arsehole

This

Meandspottydogs · 12/05/2024 11:15

Pippetypoppity · 11/05/2024 20:06

Until we see the ‘thousands’ of emails and voice mails we can’t actually know. Or at least hear there’s incontrovertible proof of such. I’m ready to be shot down in flames but I honestly didn’t think she sounded particularly ‘mad’. Relatively composed and together for someone who’s in her position right now. Yes some sus bits like her degree marks but nothing truly loopy. She could have been a sobbing raving mess considering the public outing and the online trolling she’s had. Im just concerned the whole thing was maybe six of one and half a dozen of the other between her and Richard Gadd. The guys definitely got a nerve writing it, acting it and publicising it. He’s a performer at heart so it could well be an extremely embellished piece of performance ‘art’ more loosely based on events than true per se. We’ll probably never know. Can’t help pitying the woman either way.

This- and My own, unproven theory is that Netflix/Gadd knew how she'd respond and that it was likely that it would continue to play out in real life, which it is.
Free publicity for Netflix and Gadd

pootlin · 12/05/2024 12:05

I watched the interview last night following this thread and I’m watching BR now. Whilst I’m horrified by what she did, I did shake my head at a world in which a man being stalked can say things like ‘’Holding off reporting her out of fascination or empathy or guilt. Any excuse really, to keep her in my life.’ Can you imagine a woman being stalked by a man having this thought process?

commonsense61 · 12/05/2024 12:25

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RazzlePuff · 12/05/2024 12:55

JeepSleeHack · 12/05/2024 00:29

@pootlin I think even a rookie lawyer could secure a win for FH in the courts for defamation. The problem would be that FH herself - shes is so unwilling to admit the parts she is guilty of (the thousands of messages being the obvious example) that she just wouldn’t make a credible witness.

How to quantify the damage to her reputation !

SunnyUpland · 12/05/2024 13:32

To those who have seen the real FH's facebook profile- is it still publicly visible?

I found it yesterday (it had photos going back some years) but can't seem to find it today. Just lots of fake profiles created in the last couple of weeks. Not sure if it's the search function on FB being a bit weird and selective with results, or that the profile has actually been removed.

Rescuedog12 · 12/05/2024 13:35

Wasn't her name muir when at uni? I read she changed it after thd trouble with the m.p

TraitorsGate · 12/05/2024 13:37

Rescuedog12 · 12/05/2024 13:35

Wasn't her name muir when at uni? I read she changed it after thd trouble with the m.p

Edited

I thought it was double barrel at birth but changed when her parents divorced

BodyKeepingScore · 12/05/2024 13:43

pootlin · 12/05/2024 12:05

I watched the interview last night following this thread and I’m watching BR now. Whilst I’m horrified by what she did, I did shake my head at a world in which a man being stalked can say things like ‘’Holding off reporting her out of fascination or empathy or guilt. Any excuse really, to keep her in my life.’ Can you imagine a woman being stalked by a man having this thought process?

Lots of women who are stalked have similarly complicated thought processes, especially those who have been victims of abuse or trauma before the stalking began. People aren't black and white nor do they respond to things in the ways we'd always expect them to.

category12 · 12/05/2024 14:10

BodyKeepingScore · 12/05/2024 13:43

Lots of women who are stalked have similarly complicated thought processes, especially those who have been victims of abuse or trauma before the stalking began. People aren't black and white nor do they respond to things in the ways we'd always expect them to.

Yeah, what I liked about Baby Reindeer was the "unsympathetic victim" reacting in self-destructive and questionable ways. It felt authentic.

It's disappointing how it's all going, as it seemed like a good way of opening up the conversation about trauma from abuse.

Rescuedog12 · 12/05/2024 14:22

TraitorsGate · 12/05/2024 13:37

I thought it was double barrel at birth but changed when her parents divorced

That's what she said in piers interview but it was muir when she harassed the m.p...i will attach a pic I've just screenshot it from a sun article.

To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]
RazzlePuff · 12/05/2024 16:02

Not sure how stalkers pick a target - love, hate? Jealously? Envy, Pity? Some kind of chemical attraction?

I’m a woman, was stalked and assaulted by a man who lived in my block of flats. I didn’t know him, had not met him. He had sent me recorded letters (typed envelopes!) that I had refused to accept when I saw return address was in my building. Then he slipped the letters under my door but I would not open & put back under his door, I knew that I didn’t want to read them!!
The fact my stalker/assaulter followed me from my building allowed me ID him. How he learned my name is a mystery. The assault was after 3 months of not “engaging” with his letters.

The police did arrest him & struggled to understand WHY an openly gay man would stalk a much younger woman whom he had never met. Police were initially reluctant thinking I must by lying about not knowing him.
During police questioning he accused me of disturbing his “right to quite” not quiet. (that’s right, like Marta/Fiona,a mis-speller). He showed the police the his returned letters, a notebook where he recorded dates & times where I was disturbing his quiet. (From work swipes & receipts I could have proved I was elsewhere).

He spent a night in the cells, I got a protection order but he still body-slammed me in a shop & train platform months later. I moved away a year later.

I had a female flat mate … I always wondered why he selected me, and not her? Also, he had done similar to another young woman, and an elderly woman In the building over previous years, neither had gone to police. If they had he might have stopped, do resent them for not going to police.

Obviously harassing women chronic prob for him.

BusterGonad · 12/05/2024 16:03

SunnyUpland · 12/05/2024 13:32

To those who have seen the real FH's facebook profile- is it still publicly visible?

I found it yesterday (it had photos going back some years) but can't seem to find it today. Just lots of fake profiles created in the last couple of weeks. Not sure if it's the search function on FB being a bit weird and selective with results, or that the profile has actually been removed.

It's harder to find, you need to key her name in, then go to posts, until you find one with her old photo attached, like a passport photo from about 20 or more years ago.

Whostolemymojo · 12/05/2024 16:07

Junction7 · 09/05/2024 21:40

It made me squirm. I know she seemed mentally ill, but what mental illness would make you more likely to be obsessive/prone to stalking/extreme lying?

Several! Mental illness is a huge spectrum.

pootlin · 12/05/2024 16:11

SunnyUpland · 12/05/2024 13:32

To those who have seen the real FH's facebook profile- is it still publicly visible?

I found it yesterday (it had photos going back some years) but can't seem to find it today. Just lots of fake profiles created in the last couple of weeks. Not sure if it's the search function on FB being a bit weird and selective with results, or that the profile has actually been removed.

Link to her FB profile:

https://www.facebook.com/fiona.harvey.1466?mibextid=ZbWKwL

Misthios · 12/05/2024 16:30

She's a prolific FB poster, isn't she?

Tattletwat · 12/05/2024 16:40

As a man who had a female stalker I don't know what attracted her. I'm not a that attractive bloke and probably not that much of a catch.

And it all started because I was friendly towards her once, but very similar to this lady as the always made out she was a high flying psychiatrist but didn't seem to have a job. But she found out where I live and followed me everywhere, however I never did anything to encourage her.

She ended up a nightmare and I still see her about time to time, people think I'm ignorant as I don't acknowledge she even exists, apart from boiling point when I told her to fuck off, thankfully I was somewhere they knew my history with her and i wasnt thr agressor.

I'm not a woman but as a man the responses I got were why don't you give her a chance, what's your problem with her.

It ended eventually as she got with my attitude she doesn't exist, and I know she has a new victim.

Maybe I should have reported it I don't know, it probably makes me bad but it is what it is.

Starlightstarbright3 · 12/05/2024 18:05

Tattletwat · 12/05/2024 16:40

As a man who had a female stalker I don't know what attracted her. I'm not a that attractive bloke and probably not that much of a catch.

And it all started because I was friendly towards her once, but very similar to this lady as the always made out she was a high flying psychiatrist but didn't seem to have a job. But she found out where I live and followed me everywhere, however I never did anything to encourage her.

She ended up a nightmare and I still see her about time to time, people think I'm ignorant as I don't acknowledge she even exists, apart from boiling point when I told her to fuck off, thankfully I was somewhere they knew my history with her and i wasnt thr agressor.

I'm not a woman but as a man the responses I got were why don't you give her a chance, what's your problem with her.

It ended eventually as she got with my attitude she doesn't exist, and I know she has a new victim.

Maybe I should have reported it I don't know, it probably makes me bad but it is what it is.

Not everyone reports a crime - stalking is a difficult crime to prove .

you did nothing wrong .. No one knows how they would react in that situation .

Thank you for sharing.

Tattletwat · 12/05/2024 18:19

Starlightstarbright3 · 12/05/2024 18:05

Not everyone reports a crime - stalking is a difficult crime to prove .

you did nothing wrong .. No one knows how they would react in that situation .

Thank you for sharing.

Thank you, I was talking with friends about it with relation to baby reindeer other night, and if I made a few slightly different decisions and just been more friendly than I am, it would have ended up as bad as the show, when you are having to run away from venue you were in And having to tell bar staff to hide you is when enough is enough.

Superlambaanana · 12/05/2024 18:42

Misthios · 12/05/2024 16:30

She's a prolific FB poster, isn't she?

Blimey yes. Looking at her Facebook page I can see that she is very obsessive.

She seems to get something into her head - Camden council are incompetent/ a neighbour is noisy/ a celebrity is doing something she disapproves of - and she goes on and on and on and on and on and on ad infinitum about it.

It's like a record stuck on repeat and as she can't get a resolution to anything (because the stuff she gets obsessed about is trivial or just the general shit we all have to deal with in life) she can't seem to move on.

I suspect she also comes up against public servants and shop assistants and all manner of people who may initially try to help her but have to give up because she obviously isn't the full shilling. That then that perpetuates her sense of injustice and frustration with the world, adding more fuel to obsessive cycle.

I do feel very sorry for her. It's like someone who can't stop compulsively eating or feeding an addiction. It seems almost out of her control to stop herself posting her every thought.

(PS I am alive to the irony of a MNer saying they feel sorry for someone who posts their every thought on tinternet 😆)

Firsttimemum2023 · 12/05/2024 19:26

SunnyUpland · 12/05/2024 13:32

To those who have seen the real FH's facebook profile- is it still publicly visible?

I found it yesterday (it had photos going back some years) but can't seem to find it today. Just lots of fake profiles created in the last couple of weeks. Not sure if it's the search function on FB being a bit weird and selective with results, or that the profile has actually been removed.

It’s easiest to search for “Keris Callaghan” (young brunette lady whose face is sort of diagonal in her profile pic) and the real Fiona’s profile is in her friends list.