Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

Nah. They were perfectly happy to send K&W on cringe colonial jolly to the Caribbean without caring for the optics of that.

Ah but they are very much not a racist family remember. William's own words.

He looks like Prince Philip and Charles at the same age imo.

That is a load of utter crap. Harry sold his family down the river for money. We were regaled with way TMI about his todger.

It's clear the RF were always covering up for his bad behaviour, and now he's cut himself loose, it's clear for the world to see who he always was!

The King hasn't cut him off. He just didn't make time to see him on this occasion. And if Harry ever stayed in the country of his birth for more than 5 minutes, I am sure he would see him. The King has been way too tolerant of the pair of them. What Harry and his equally odious wife have done is beyond forgiving. The lies they told were a disgrace. I'd have had the titles off them long ago.

He was not treated like a third wheel at all - he and Kate seemed to have a great relationship. May I remind you how he said she was the sister he always wanted and never had?

If a child of mine had dished the dirt on me the way those two have, I too would be slow to spend time in their company, giving them more grist for their mill! He couldn't even keep his mouth shut in Canada after he saw Charles in February!!

He did not get his wife and child out either. They flounced off in a huff because the late Queen wouldn't give in to their demands for 'half in half out' and rightly so. They are still trying to get that by the back door!

Yes how dare William prioritise his children when his family are going through the worst time of their life.

Oh fgs that old chestnut! Of course he's not James Hewitt's - Hewitt wasn't around at the time. And he looks just like Charles. What a ridiculous thing to say.

@Runnerinthenight You are right. Harry flew over for two days. He was totally unreasonable to expect his father to meet him for a coffee. Harry should have flown over for a few weeks so that Charles could find half an hour spare to meet his son.

How can you possibly say that? That's so far left of centre - Diana is still one of the most talked about women in the world!!!! Her sons keep her memory alive even if Harry's main motivation now seems to be to make money out of it!

Harry's an entitled arsehole. His dad is 75, undergoing cancer treatment and recently restarted public engagements. He's the bloody King fgs!! He was quite right not to drop everything for his selfish, entitled son! Who would only have gone on to piss all over his dad again and tell the world what was said!

Look at countries who abolished their monarchies, they're not doing better than us. I don't see a point in them stepping down if they're causing no harm. KC alone made 100 million just off his charities in a year, that's not a bad thing!

39 middle aged?? Omg

Yeah K & W were sent - M & H have chosen to go! There's the difference!

I don’t really think you have the knowledge to comment, no one does really we can only have our opinions as I imagine we don’t even know the half of what goes on behind closed doors, everything is hushed up beyond belief.

Charles was forced to marry Diana when he loved Camilla, unfortunately for Diana who didn’t deserve that kind of hurt but she knew what she was getting into on some level I’m sure.

Harry comes across as a bit of a spoilt brat who kicks and scream when he does t get what he wants, he definitely never thought he would be ousted the way he was but he can blame his wife for that as it seems she did everything she could to get him away from his family, and as for William he’s not the nice guy everyone makes out as I’ve read lots of rumours about his affairs etc

but once again those are just my opinions, not fact, who knows 🤷🏼‍♀️

I am agreeing. Charles is the King. His son Harry can not expect his father to meet him for a coffee. He can see him on TV like everyone else.

If he had done this we would now have King Andrew. God Forbid!

Yes Catherine and William did not want to have to fly abroad to a do a foreign tour. Charles made them go.
Harry and Meghan responded to an invite to Nigeria by saying yes. No one made them go.

Completely different scenario - Queen’s advisors requested the jubilee tour trips by all the senior royals as part of an official UK celebration.

This is a private citizen representing a charity going to a politically complex country and specifically being hosted by the military operation there which has all kinds of issues.

But this private citizen just happens to be the son of the UK’s head of state. It’s diplomatically complex situation and one Harry has to navigate without the benefit of a team of people briefed by the government to make sure he doesn’t say something inappropriate (on ‘behalf’ of the UK)

Harry has revealed private conversations publicly with this father (in his book) and he’s also done TV interviews with American press insinuating all sorts of ‘influence’ he had in the late Queen’s situation.

God knows what he’d say behind closed doors with a foreign power, or to a pushy journalist.

This way he can’t claim to have had a meeting with the King, or have heard the King’s thoughts on Nigerian politics recently, or be able to promise to take a message back to the King/government ministers.

Would you be the bigger person if your son had trashed your reputation and that of your family members? And if you knew that anything you said to him would be up for sale at the first opportunity?

Well tough shit, it's not happening.

I think it looks terrible to be honest.
Lots of the royal family have had scandals equally big or even worse than Harry's tell all book and they're all still in the circle. It's well known that many of the RF feed stories to the media/royal correspondents so I don't see it at any different. It's almost more honest than the backroom briefings that have been going on, even though it was a silly thing to do.

Just looking at all the negative press about Harry and about whether he was booed etc. at the Invictus meeting, and his obvious discomfort in front of the public, it makes me think less of the rest of the family for not engaging with him a little publicly to calm down the frothy media speculation and kill the story of the impasse.

@wordler I agree! Imagine what Harry could say!!
William and Catherine never put a foot wrong or say anything wrong. Look at how well their Caribbean tour went.

@Runnerinthenight he hasn't trashed anyone's reputation as this thread shows!

Families have worse crises than this and manage to survive them.

I very much doubt Harry is saddened not being able to see his dad.

Should Harry and his two children pull out of the line of succession? I think so. I knew Meghan was trouble. She's acting similar to Wallis.

He’s said it. That’s why he’s no longer privy to any but the most superficial information about anything. He can’t keep his gob shut.