Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

I think Harry looks more like Charles as he gets older. It’s obvious he is Charles’s son.

Not so much deliberately forgotten maybe as conveniently written out of history?

He's the King. With formal royal duties & official engagements which he can't just cancel on a whim, especially when he's had so much time off work sick lately.

Harry is a complete twat.i feel really sorry for Charles. Let's not forget that Diana actually cheated on Charles first and she knew he wasn't in love with her (although he said he did love her, he wasn't in love).
Harry has spread lies about his family and told the world about their relationship, branded his father and SUL racist and you think Charles should just forget all that?
I think if he welcomed Harry back he would loose William and William isn't a complete twat.
Harry made his choice, no one forced him to marry Meghan. He chose to leave England so I wish he'd just stay away.

Charles doesn’t get to act simply as a father now he is a head of state - his decisions and actions have to be balanced across personal wants and government needs.

Harry is about to go to Nigeria and be feted by the Nigerian military (who want the chance to host Invictus) - there’s a lot of problematic political issues with the Nigerian miliatary/government - with a lot of nuance for relationships between Nigeria and the UK.

Harry having a very publicized ‘private’ meeting with the UK head of state right before he goes to Nigeria on what looks like a pseudo royal tour is potentially problematic for Charles as head of state because who knows what Harry would claim to have been said by Charles etc.

This is exactly why the late Queen said the half in half out would not work.

Conveniently written out and when mentioned there is usually a deliberate rewriting of history.

@Rosebel "feel really sorry for Charles. Let's not forget that Diana actually cheated on Charles first"

That's not actually how it happened- Charles never ended his relationship with Camilla.

Yes, Charles (and Camilla) were selfish shits. Their actions have obviously led to a lot of pain. However Harry chose to launch a full on attack on his family. There are consequences for actions.

You are right. Charles had a 3 hour garden party to attend. He could not possibly meet with his son for a quick coffee. What a ridiculous suggestion.

William just knows his children's life of luxury depends on the continuation of the family as it is.

It doesn’t though. The family is hugely wealthy in its own right so are the Middletons. If we became a republic tomorrow their lifestyle would change only in that they’d get more privacy. I genuinely don’t understand what’s in it for them.

I think the main problem is not that Harry spilled the beans re the secrets that all families have, it’s that he twisted the truth and outright lied making a bad situation worse. That was unforgivable in a family that has very little privacy and probably cherishes that that they have.

Harry’s actions drove a wedge that separated the brothers. Harry’s actions are likely to cause Charles to dislike Harry. A parent can still love a child despite loving them.

if he was my brother I would have very conflicted feelings for him and keep him at a distance.

This.
Charles and Diana married in a completely different time due to duty, which seems incomprehensible now. They looked completely mismatched all along.

I felt sorry for Harry, but he betrayed his family in the worse way imaginable.

Harry was betrayed by his family.
Charles sad terrible things publicly about his parents.

King Charles is the Head of the Church of England, Defender of the Faith.

He should be taking his role as leader more seriously - being more in line with Jesus teaching- love, forgiveness, turn the other cheek etc.
He should be the bigger person, leading by example. Embracing family members, flawed or not.
His rigid cold selfishness, his me-first behavior makes his role as head of chuch a mockery.
He has every opportunity to make a difference, show the world what a leader does.

His is just going the the motions of Kingship, Leadership. What a disappointment.

I think the RFand particularly the Queen mother miscalculated with Diana. They assumed that as she’d grown up in an aristocratic family she would toe the line and do exactly what was expected of her as wife to the heir to the throne. They were very much mistaken.

King Charles heads the 'firm' and there are protocols to which members of the firm have to adhere. Some do, some don't. The danger in doing so is that one can become a stuffed shirt!

I think he should make friends with H&M and I believe the firm handled their departure badly, making them out to be 'baddies', when they have actually not done anything wrong.

However, he is not going to listen to me :-).

At the moment he has to have treatment for cancer so needs a bit of peace and quiet.

I don't get this 'Harry trashed his family' line. I thought the relationship between Charles and Harry was portrayed pretty positively in Spare. Tbh I didn't think Spare was a hatchet job full stop, there was a lot of warmth in it. Just me?

In writing that book Harry did exactly what both his mother and father did - aired their dirty linen, grievances, private issues in public in some sort of weird attempt to get validation from the public. Charles did it, Diana did it, so it is a bit much to regard Harry as the worst in the world because he followed their example.

Charles' family is seriously dysfunctional. Not really surprising.

I can't understand a father not meeting his son. And I can't understand all the posters on MN who apparently would do exactly the same thing if their son did something they didn't like. Good thing Elizabeth didn't react the same to Charles' antics back in the day.

I agree. The people saying this have only read the Daily Mail rather than the book.
Charles did trash his parents though.

I don’t think Diana came from a stable background. She described a somewhat unhappy relationship between her biological parents, her father slapped her mother and eventually her mother left the family home. Earl Spencer describes a loveless childhood in his book too.

@BigMandsTattooPortfolio Both Diana and Charles came from dysfunctional families. Charles was in his thirties though while Diana was just a teenager.

From what I've read, Charles was a dreadful husband to Diana (no, she wasn't a saint, but he was downright callous towards her). He was also a pretty rubbish father - hardly surprising, given that his own parents weren't exactly brilliant role models in that respect. But I also get the impression he's softened a lot with old age and probably regrets the way he behaved when he was younger.

In the end, Harry is a grown man and has to take responsibility for his own actions. I completely understand his point about how the Palace manipulates the media, but I imagine there a lots of times the Palace manipulated the media in Harry's favour as well. If a member of my family published a tell-all book about me, I'd never speak to them again. I just wouldn't be able to trust them. Who wants the stress of worrying that whatever you say in the heat of the media may end up being broadcast in an Oprah interview? It's not worth it.

Surprisingly, I actually thought William and Kate came across quite well in Harry's book. It sounded to me as though William, while not the perfect brother, genuinely cares about Harry. And the worst thing Kate did was make a fuss over Charlotte's bridesmaid dress, for which she sent flowers and an apology the next day. Pretty harmless. (Unless it turns Kate really was the one who expressed concern about Archie's skin colour.)

Well okay but what I have read suggests that their relationship did end, that he and Diana were actually happy for a while and she did cheat. She also used her eldest son as a bloody sounding board about how badly Charles treated her. The press were just desperate to make him the villain and her the victim.
In reality they were both villains and victims during their relationship.

Is that another thing blown completely out of proportion? Was it concern or interest? What parent hasn't wondered what their unborn child will look like?

It's pointless trying to dissect Charles and Dis marriage. Its been done a million times. They weren't really right for each other. He was 32 and needed to produce an heir. Diana was young, attractive, virginal, aristocratic and wanted to marry a Prince. Imo he married the wrong sister. Hw should have married Sarah who was older and more worldly wise.
I can't really blame Charles for cutting Harry off, after the public accusations he made to the whole world, about his loved ones.
Harry is now learning that you reap what you sow, and he has sure sown 😉