Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

[Eieiom]

Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

Exactly!! 👏

Dear God - King Andrew

Gaah

Harry is a grown man, nearly 40. At some point hes has to stop blaming other people and take responsibility for his own life.

He has a wife and family, a home of his own choosing. He could stop whining & playing the victim, and accept that responsibility.

Royal schedules are set months in advance. Harry can't expect those schedules to be dropped at a moment's notice because he's in the UK. If he wanted to see his father, his office and Charles' office should have been in contact months ago.

Yep imagine knowing that’s likely

That's very true. I personally believe he handed the government an excuse to get rid of him and they couldn't believe their luck. Before he became a Nazi sympathiser he was also dallying with socialism and was incredibly popular with the people, they actually really loved him. He visited the slums, went into people's homes and wrote reports back to the government about how disgraceful it all was.

I think this is an important wider point. I come from a very poor family.
But I have met some really messed up and traumatised adults who come from wealthy families, one from the aristocracy, whose traumatic childhoods and their impact seems to be rarely taken seriously by others. Money is important, but it does not erase a traumatic and difficult childhood.

I agree, the whole family is toxin, it would be impossible not to be in their roles imo and Harty done the best thing for his own mental health and that of his childrens by leaving them to it.

I really agree with this. I don’t agree with everything that Harry has done by any means but I think he is genuinely hurt and feels massively rejected by his family.

And when you’ve lost your mother at a young age, and you’ve had a childhood shuffling back and forth between boarding school, your parents’ houses, your nanny’s household, your grandmother’s estates, ski holidays, other holidays, and you are never in one place that you call “home”, it doesn’t give you that core stability that allows you to overcome rejection easily.

You are right. A father can not be expected to set aside half an hour to meet his son without receiving the request months in advance.

I don't think Harry is even Charles son, tbh. James Hewitt looks more likely.

I suspect they’re more Martha and George than Romeo and Juliet (Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolf). 😁

I think Harry is well rid of the lot of them, they are the most dysfunctional family. LC is the way to go.

Can anyone here really imagine refusing to meet their adult child for half an hour? Especially when he normally lives abroad. No matter how bad the relationship, or how busy I was I would find time for a quick coffee.
I do think the older Royals appear very cold with how they parent. Booking an appointment for half an hour to see your parent or child rather than a quick text saying are you free later? Its all very strange.

To be fair if you live on different continents it’s probably wise to organise something well in advance before hopping on a plane.

I don't think I suggested it was a moral flaw - only that she hid her personality disorder and mental health issues until she got married and only showed her charming, willing and personable side - not necessarily deliberately either. She was young enough not to really know her own triggers and how to manage her instabilities

I'm sure when Diana agree to marry Charles, having met him just 13 times and being taken out to lunch and given advice on how to handle him from his mistress, she didn't know she had a personality disorder! Most people don't disclose personal stuff like self-harm or bulimia for months or years, that's why they date for longer. The pressure on Charles was to settle down though, and even by his own account he proposed more than four times to other women and they all turned him down so the clock was ticking and on they went...

Of course King Charles is selfish. Look at all the laws that he is allowed to ignore. His Mum managed to change the law so that her estate would Be exempt from inheritance tax. King Charles benefitted massively by that but selfishly, because he is selfish and greedy, he did nothing about it. He has done everything he can to maximise his wealth.
He hasn't even done anything about the legislation that exempts him from various employment legislation or green legislation.
Harry is obviously a spoilt manchild
too.
They are all awful people but unfortunately they are surrounded by simpering sycophants who are holding out so that they can be rewarded with knighthoods or whatever.
There is no place for a royal family in modern day life.

@littlebitstuck2024

All of that.

plus @Eieiom there's a royal Family topic, could you report your original post & ask MN to move it please

I loved the Queen, I think the rest of them are doing their best.

the 3 kids are gorgeous.

i used to love Harry, but ever since meeting Meghan he's made stupid decision after stupid decision, I'm sad about that, but he's old enough to know better & needs to own it.

but these threads need to be in the right topic, not on AIBU/chat or anywhere else.

To be fair if my adults DCs were abroad and hopped on a plan and phoned me from the airport, I would make time to meet up with them. Most parents would. Even if it meant having a coffee at midnight because I had been working late.
Charles was at a garden party for a maximum of three hours.

Well aren't Harry and Meghan supposedly for saving the planet/climate and don't want to be galavanting around on planes every 5 minutes? Or is that only when it suits them? 🤔

And I see the usual people are pushing the idea Diana had mental health problems. Diana was open about the mental health problems she did have. She had bulimia.
It is an old trope though to call woman who are exes crazy women who drove the man to cheat and divorce her.

The woman he loved wasn’t a virgin!
I doubt he was either but that didn't seem to count!

The marriage was a mistake from the start, it was very sad the way it happened with Diana's early death, but the family cannot allow it to poison relations forever. We don't know how Diana's life would have panned out but he seems to be in a very happy place and Harry finds that hard to accept.

Not even people holding out for knighthood but people who buy £20 dolls for one of the richest little girls in the country and tie themselves in knots to defend their every move, and stick their fingers in their ears when people talk about tax avoidance.

Same with Diana. She choose royalty. She knew he was in love with Camilla. If the virginity testing thing we're true, she chose to go through that .

Charles' own childhood was pretty grim by his own account. It cascades down the generations perhaps. Although Diana was a very loving hands on mother for the time the boys had her.

Now Charles has got his own way in his domestic life , unlike his Aunt Margaret whose life was full of regrets. But she wasn't the monarch and Harry never will be. That's primogeniture though. It wasn't designed to be fair or reasonable.

Most British people will support the monarchy no matter what as per the result of your poll. It's like when some well loved character is written out of a soap opera. Oh it'll never be the same without X they cry. But not for long. How quickly Diana was forgotten.

Oh not this old chestnut. That theory has been disproved many times by doing simple maths.

It’s going to be Andrew looking like Porchie next!

Besides there’s lots of photos with Harry looking very much like Prince Philip.