Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

Personally, I think the royals were/are vastly more experienced.

No you’re not, no-one is. It was the affair that meant it was all too easy to paint her as an adulteress who abandoned her family. That’s why Lady Fermoy testified against her. Without that, things might have been different.

But I don’t think you grow out of trauma just because you’re nearly 40.

What blatant ageism! Just because someone is old doesn't mean they have no value. You should be deeply ashamed of that comment!

So you’re sympathetic to one blonde aristocrat married as a teen to a much older more powerful man, but not another. Ok.

She lost the kids as she committed adultery which back then was considered heinous.

He's had a shitload of counselling/therapy and it seems to have made him worse if anything!

No, I am sure because at that time a member of the aristocracy would have no trouble winning custody of their children in a divorce whether there was adultery or not.

Doubt it. I bet very few women who went to court for custody of their children in the 1960s won if they were up against a rich and influential man.

That’s not actually true, she was herself a member of the aristocracy, her father was Baron Fermoy, friend of George VI. Even in the 60s you’d have to have a good reason for separating a mother from their children.

Well, he was an equerry to the Queen so I bet that went in his favour.

I think the timing of Harry's debacle didn't help him at all. Exposing all of the families secrets at the end of his grandparents lives turned a lot of people against him, and looking for sympathy after a pandemic and during a cost of living crisis, when he has grown up with every medical and financial privilege imaginable, was just unbelievably crass and ill timed.

I think that might actually be the most unforgiveable part of it. He spouted all this when his grandparents were at the end of their lives, and he couldn't have cared less the impact it had on them. He couldn't be arsed to even go and see them. Despicable!

I don’t think Charles had affairs (plural). Apart from Camilla who else has he been linked with?

Good point - I was thinking that too. I have a lot of compassion for the situation he found himself blocked into.

They're all pretty bad, imo. Charles had the Dimbleby book written which trashed his parents long before Harry had a go.

They're so bloody dysfunctional and anachronistic. I think (hope) that as the older generation dies off, so will the monarchy. My DC are pretty witched on about current affairs but have zero interest in the RF, I think they see them as slightly quaint reality-type celebs.

Yup - as a nation the slightly younger generation and the real young ones all love Harry. We’ve seen him fall flat on his face and get back up a million times…he’s the underdog and flawed like us, and doesn’t have that ‘cold’ demeanour the rest of them can never shake off no matter how hard they try.

My theory is the RF have put their egos over survival of the firm. They’d rather see it fail than see H&M take over as the most popular royals, which they surely were on track to do. So they sat back and let the likes of Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail say all those things about the couple without intervening.

Just imagine how popular the RF would have been now had they all been able to get along. People went mad for H&M, hugging them and queuing up to see them and they loved the fab four together. People liked a princess with an opinion about how to make the world better….

Plus whatever has happened, life is much too short to cut off your son and brother.

What made you think he wanted to break the law to know her every move? It seems to me he wasn’t he least bit interested in her - well, at any point really

Shand?? Any relation to Camilla?

This would be in the 60’s/70’s - sadly Family courts still were weighed in favour of men, I wonder how much of a fair process it was. She would likely have been painted as a madwoman.

at least she tried though

maybe I’m thinking her parents both died while she was still alive? I shall go and Google

How do you know he’s cutting off his son? You can’t believe all the crap so called “sources” give to the press.

if it is true Harry has been cut off due to his behaviour.

Having had experience through my work of family courts, sadly not that much has changed

How very sad. It was a shame she wasn’t closer to her siblings

Sadly I think of Diana were still alive today she’s have turned into a Fergie style caricature showing up to the opening of an envelope, participating in reality TV and still wanging on about Charles

Wallis actually wanted out. This was clear in her letters to her ex husband. She would have dumped Edward but it all moved so fast she was stuck with him. She found him insufferably uninspiring.

Doesn’t he advocate for illegal drug use or have I taken too many painkillers today and have made that up?