Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

No, he won custody of them in a bitter court case. She fought for them but in those days she had no chance against an Earl.

So was the inquiry into her death also "revolting"?

That displays an astonishing lack of awareness of what life was like for women, particularly aristocratic ones, in the 1960s. No way was Spencer going to allow his adulterous ex have custody of his son and heir.

Oh yes. Her own mother took her abusive son in law's side in court. Mind you, she was a lady in waiting to the Queen mother.

That was the divorce settlement, she left her kids when Diana was 8. Diana used the words “mummy legged it”. She was labelled a “bolter”.

Incomplete list of countries with royal families:
UK & some former British colonies
Netherlands
Denmark
Norway
Sweden
Japan
Belgium

Are none of them "adult societies"? More than half of the 20 "happiest" nations in the world are monarchies.

By contrast the US is not a monarchy. Do you think that the US' political system is more "adult" than the countries listed above?

I don't get the whole forgiveness no matter what. He went on air branded his family racists, attacked his dad and step mum, made up lies that are proven to be lies and people think he should still be forgiven? Why give him ammunition?

I doubt Charles will win a dad of the year contest and yes he had affairs but why on earth is Diana turned into a martyr? She also had affairs but people seem to forget that bit. Camilla has also done the same type of charitable work the royals have always done but never gets credit without the pile on about an affair that happened decades ago. They are normal people with normal issues but they would be mad to welcome Harry back with open arms when he has weaponsed any communication against them. I don't doubt he is traumatised from his mothers death and his time in the army but he is attacking people and trying to martyr him and Megan just as his mum was.

oh and as for people spouting off "Diana would make sure her boys sorted this out of what ever" need to stop. Unless you know Diana, her sons and their wider family inside out you cannot be sure of anything "she would do".

She still fought for her children though. That's a matter of record.

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Oh the irony.

Absolutely not!

@DrJonesIpresume "You are also forgetting that the King (and his mother before him) knows more about international diplomatic relations than just about anyone else on the planet."

Really? Personally I'd prefer the Foreign Office and the Diplomatic Service to handle the diplomacy.....

I feel desperately sorry for KC. Really I do. A gentle and sensitive man.
Harry is sadly dumb and was reeled in by sunshine sachs, at the cost of his family.

I never said she didn’t go to court over it. But it’s possible she wouldn’t have lost custody completely if she hadn’t left.

Meghan was a "Yacht Girl" i am sure she knew a trick or two.

I'm pretty sure she would have, either way.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2004/jun/04/guardianobituaries.monarchy

She would. It was a man’s world. Especially if you were an Earl. She hadn’t a hope in hell.

Oh, like what?

I think that's bit of an exaggeration!

I like Andrew’s daughters. I think they have had quite a hard road with their parents’ antics and remain dignified. They don’t push for attention , they keep their children quite low profile . They don’t seem to fall out with everyone.

I heard Beatrice was the Queen’s favourite grandchild.

He did leave yes, physically. I’m not sure anyone can argue mentally he left or that he’s not trying ro act as a working royal with a straight face though. All he really has done is invictus and selling stories on his family.

He caused that himself, nobody else, other than his scheming wife that is. He's far from a "little boy" at nearly 40 and so far as love goes he has a wife and children!

Pray tell, when have the RF "vilified Harry"? Because it never happened!!!

Diana was getting plenty on the side, don’t worry.

The marriage was a shit show from day one, and should never have happened.

Charles was unfortunate in that he straddled the old ways and the more modern era. He isn’t perfect, but he’s been happily married to Camilla for longer than he was married to Diana, and divorce isn’t exactly an unknown quantity in that family.

I agree Harry seems to be acting out trauma, and I can’t blame him. But I think his mother’s shocking death is the root of it, rather than his parents’ divorce.