Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

Hardly. Or are you denying that she did those things?

He didn't embrace his own children much did he. Yes meant the Queen, my mistake.

She rejected it because with it came 24/7 royal surveillance.

Furthemore victim blaming someone for dying in a car crash is repellent.

Poor Harry, imagine being nearly 40 years old, a millionaire in your own right and having daddy cut you off

It was a lie BTW Harry was receiving millions up to July 2021

i wouldn’t trust the little prick either. He’s got a Netflix crew with him. He’s looking for more whiney content and if I were Charles I wouldn’t give him so much as an inch. I mean imagine not being able to trust a word you say you your son because you know he’ll go and lie about you afterwards.

If this was a poster on MN with her adult son posters would say go NC

I can't 'ban' anyone from saying anything about anyone - nothing to do with me. But the zealous defence of the RF and the monarchy - and the vicious criticism of Harry and Meghan and now, his mother - from some posters - paints its own picture.

'I am totally disinterested in any "negative conclusions" you might draw.'

That makes two of us. But the word you are looking for is 'uninterested'.

It would be repellent if anyone had done that.

She wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. There’s a reason we HAVE to wear seatbelts

I’m not a royalist and I really think it’s time to stop all the bowing and scraping. No man (or woman) should be bowing to another. I do think poor Charles has not had an easy time of it. He should have been allowed to marry the woman of his choosing. I would be happy to have a slimmed down, self supporting, Royal Family, fit for the modern world. I think Edward and Sophie are the best of the bunch.

Also no one was surveilling her and reporting back - that’s why Bashir got into trouble because he forged documents to make it seem that way. Horrid man.

But yes she believed it at the time

That’s exactly what posters are doing you included, and it’s revolting.

In your opinion.

It's the people who might have told the King who would be intimidated, not Charles himself or anyone in his inner circle.

Nothing to do with Bashir that’s just how RF security works. RF have tabs on their charges 24/7 that’s the whole point of the job!

Not just mine, you’ve already been called out on it.

Do you blame every woman who is hurt or killed after getting into a car with a (unbeknownst to her) drunk driver?

I don't think people are victim blaming but pointing out that a seatbelt might have saved her life.

It's not her fault people were chasing her! It's horrid the paparazzi were so awful. The accident was never her fault.

All of that can be true as well as she should have been wearing a seatbelt.

If I get in the car with a drunk driver and crash it's not crazy to say I shouldn't have got in the car. It's just common sense.

I think the saddest thing is that they could do it differently. Not fall into the recurring trap of feeding one of their own to the media wolves, with all the bullying and negativity that involves.

There's a recurring pattern of alienation in this family and I for one would love to see them undo it.
I just feel so uncomfortable at the vitriol directed at Harry and his family, it's disproportionate. Whoever makes the first step, it should happen.
This cutting out of some members is weakening their position, rather than strengthening it.

If the person (it doesn't matter if it's a woman) has no clue of course not. If they do though then ya, they probably shouldn't have done that.

I was all for Meghan at the wedding but I think she wanted to be a Disney Princess and the biggest thing in the Royal Family. She didn’t get that 90% of it is unglamorous and that she’d be in the supporting role.

This is the impression I get, too. I don't dislike Meghan as much as some people do, but I do think she thought a princess was essentially a social media influencer who lived in a palace. I don't think she realised it's actually boring and stifling AF.

But Bashir convinced her they were reporting her every move back to Charles. He used false documents to do this. William rightly pointed out after a court case that she may be here today had she not been tricked into giving her security up.

Do we need pointing out stuff about seatbelts? Are we 6? It might it might not we will never know.

She didn’t know he was drunk and I don’t think you’d like to be blamed for getting into a car with someone you thought was sober.

Do the lies, exaggerations and name calling Harry has directed at his family in several books and TV shows not make you uncomfortable?

It was security’s job to follow her every move regardless. Even without Bashir, she would have known Charles could have asked them for info at any point.

See I think she knew exactly how boring and stifling it would be but genuinely thought that she would go in there and shake things up. Things like launching herself before Harry to shake hands at events, going against protocol - I got the feeling she wanted to apply her feminist agenda. Although it’s actually nothing to do with being a woman, Prince Philip walked 3 steps behind the Queen for several decades!

anyway I think when she went in and it was clear she was to bend to them, not the other way around, she huffed and claimed she was being victimised

I wasn't alluding to the driver being drunk. I'm just using it as an example of responsibility.

She's not to blame, but he's she should have been wearing a seatbelt.

Why is that a bad thing to point out? It doesn't change that she died tragically.