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Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Eieiom · 09/05/2024 11:12

Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

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Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 18:44

CrispieCake · 09/05/2024 18:30

Wealth is no shelter from an abusive/neglectful upbringing. It can take a long time for victims to recognise it for what it is and be ready to speak publicly about it.

Indeed. One of the things Harry covered in his book was how his father broke the news of his mother's death and left him alone for the rest of the night. If that isn't neglect amounting to abuse I don't know what is.

I am old enough to remember when Diana died, and that the RF's defence to criticism about their staying in Balmoral was that they were focused on protecting and caring for the boys. So that wasn't at all true was it?

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 18:45

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 18:37

One of the justifications trotted out for the immense privilege of the RF is that they cannot be intimidated or bought, and are free to disinterestedly do the right thing. If they cannot even do that properly - if they are truly intimidated by individuals' power - then there truly is no point at all to them.

I wasn't talking about the RF when I referred to the power wielded by Savile. I imagine people he worked with etc were too intimidated to come forward.

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 18:46

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 18:42

Oh she does - she wants their titles!

If she was that much of a social climber she would do better to have stayed put in the RF surely?

Jetstream · 09/05/2024 18:48

Eieiom · 09/05/2024 11:12

Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

Some of us of not living in the UK have said this for years. Also the royal family care not one jot for anyone other than themselves including keeping their vast wealth tax free.

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 18:49

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 18:45

I wasn't talking about the RF when I referred to the power wielded by Savile. I imagine people he worked with etc were too intimidated to come forward.

Well the RF's very public endorsement of Savile would have increased the power he had over people and the sense of intimidation they must have felt.

Sloejelly · 09/05/2024 18:50

Some of us of not living in the UK have said this for years. Also the royal family care not one jot for anyone other than themselves including keeping their vast wealth tax free.

In terms of wealth, King Charles is 263rd on the UK rich list. They voluntarily pay tax.

FangsForTheMemory · 09/05/2024 18:52

YABU to inflict yet another thread about the monarchy on people who are not interested in it. There's a whole board for stuff like this.

realw · 09/05/2024 18:52

WhataPlank · 09/05/2024 11:13

The solution is for them all to step down. We've outgrown having a royal family

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quizzys · 09/05/2024 18:53

SammyScrounge · 09/05/2024 18:27

You really believe that Harry and Meghan aren't after money?

Just like the Royal Family is do you mean?

BIossomtoes · 09/05/2024 18:53

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 18:20

I'm not clear how much of a 'friendship' the King had with Savile, but Savile had plenty of friends. He was regarded as a prolific fundraiser for the various charities he worked for. I personally always thought he was a sleazeball but he was held in high esteem by many! KC didn't have a fucking crystal ball!

The sainted Diana was great mates with Savile and of course there’s always this …

Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish
babyproblems · 09/05/2024 18:54

I agree with you op. I think Charles has behaved really badly tbh in his marriage and set such a poor example.

SophieJo · 09/05/2024 18:56

Harry could have a secret mike recording the conversation. I wouldn’t trust him at all if I was in the room when he met his father.

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 18:56

DrJonesIpresume · 09/05/2024 18:22

The fact the KC is exempt from the law and can influence the legislative process is disgusting. I think it's awful that we have an unelected head of state.

I'd rather have a Monarch and a Prime Minister than a president. President Boris, anyone?!

You are also forgetting that the King (and his mother before him) knows more about international diplomatic relations than just about anyone else on the planet.

Boris Johnson was able to do massive damage as PM without being President. Some countries have a written constitution and separation of powers so that the President can put a stop to the Government acting unconstitutionally. Whereas we had Johnson illegally prorogue Parliament without even a murmur from our 'Head of State'.

You are also forgetting that the King (and his mother before him) knows more about international diplomatic relations than just about anyone else on the planet.'
I am intrigued as to the basis for your believing this. Just being in a role for a long time doesn't automatically lead to competence.

velvetydogtoy · 09/05/2024 19:00

WhataPlank · 09/05/2024 11:13

The solution is for them all to step down. We've outgrown having a royal family

This in spades. Get rid of the lot of them now. It's time.

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 19:02

Sloejelly · 09/05/2024 18:50

Some of us of not living in the UK have said this for years. Also the royal family care not one jot for anyone other than themselves including keeping their vast wealth tax free.

In terms of wealth, King Charles is 263rd on the UK rich list. They voluntarily pay tax.

263rd! In a country of 60 million people! Practically on the breadline....

Charles has just inherited his mother's estate with no death duties as would apply to anyone else in the country. They have taken every opportunity to shape legislation and gain exemptions that protect their interests. And the rest of us don't get a choice about what tax they pay.

FairyBreadQueen · 09/05/2024 19:05

caringcarer · 09/05/2024 17:50

This. Harry caused the tension with his Dad and his brother by constantly slagging them off on TV and in his book. He slagged off Camilla and Kate too. I think Harry is a horrible person.

I also think he is a horrible person.

The treatment he gleefully recalls as if it is funny of his former matron who had scoliosis was the lowest of the fucking low.

Anyway who recounts such a story without an obvious remorse or shame - and does it in a way that the subject of his ridicule can be identified is a pretty disgusting person IMO.

Josette77 · 09/05/2024 19:09

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 18:44

Indeed. One of the things Harry covered in his book was how his father broke the news of his mother's death and left him alone for the rest of the night. If that isn't neglect amounting to abuse I don't know what is.

I am old enough to remember when Diana died, and that the RF's defence to criticism about their staying in Balmoral was that they were focused on protecting and caring for the boys. So that wasn't at all true was it?

That's assuming Harry's recollections are accurate.

Josette77 · 09/05/2024 19:12

Jetstream · 09/05/2024 18:48

Some of us of not living in the UK have said this for years. Also the royal family care not one jot for anyone other than themselves including keeping their vast wealth tax free.

And some of us not living in the UK don't blame Charles for every issue Harry has as a middle aged man.

Willmafrockfit · 09/05/2024 19:13

dont believe all you read op.

quizzys · 09/05/2024 19:14

Open up their wills I say NOW! Then we might find out who all the hidden mistresses, gigolos, non marital children etc. are/were. I'd love to see these wills. Oh and I would love to keep my own will hidden when the time comes, so that nosy relatives and others can't see how I distributed my estate. But I can't can I?

A lot historical information (not to mention fiscal and possibly scandalous) is hidden from future historians. Disgraceful really when you think of the origins of most of their loot.

caringcarer · 09/05/2024 19:16

Josette77 · 09/05/2024 19:09

That's assuming Harry's recollections are accurate.

Harry is a fantasist. I don't believe a word He says. Just look at his claim he used lots of different drugs. If he'd have ticked the box for using drugs he'd not have been allowed into the US. He exaggerates all the time. He's a hypocrite too constantly moaning about people using too many earth resources yet always on a jet plane himself.

Livingtothefull · 09/05/2024 19:17

Josette77 · 09/05/2024 19:09

That's assuming Harry's recollections are accurate.

Nobody can know for sure.....but I think I am at least as ready to believe Harry as other members of the RF. They have been caught lying on several occasions.

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 19:17

SophieJo · 09/05/2024 18:56

Harry could have a secret mike recording the conversation. I wouldn’t trust him at all if I was in the room when he met his father.

He's being filmed for Netflix. Yet again.
Dear lord, how can anyone trust him?
This is a person who sold his family's privacy.
Can you imagine how he would have responded if Charles did a tv interview slagging him off, telling intimate secrets and worse, lying, just to get £££?

HorribleHisTories15 · 09/05/2024 19:18

Totally agree @WhataPlank . Thanks for that very apt answer.

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 19:20

caringcarer · 09/05/2024 19:16

Harry is a fantasist. I don't believe a word He says. Just look at his claim he used lots of different drugs. If he'd have ticked the box for using drugs he'd not have been allowed into the US. He exaggerates all the time. He's a hypocrite too constantly moaning about people using too many earth resources yet always on a jet plane himself.

The earth resources is just like any other rich person who talks about the environment. That includes William with his helicopter flights and private jet and Charles.
And nobody ticks the form to say they have used drugs unless they have been convicted. Absolutely no one.

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