Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

On the basis of using logic..i.e. if you don't have access to all the facts..you can't make a true judgement..you can only speculate about what led to their situation.

Keep coming back to a comment up thread about H not breaking any laws.
He went public about his (objectively) dysfunctional family (aren't well families in some way) and it's like he murdered someone!
Tell all book, big deal I say!
Also true about his cousins Eugenie etc. , they've had half in half out looking things.
In the end of the day what was the plan for Harry? What was he going to do once Williams family came into being? Was he meant to be hanging about like Andrew? Why did it get to where he was married and negotiating for a role? Surely he should have had support to plan? That said very few of his relatives actually work so I imagine royal career guidance is thin on the ground.

I'd have the same views on why the UK shouldn't have a monarchy regardless of who the individual members of the royal family were.
The fact the KC is such a twit doesn't help but it's irrelevant to me really.

I'm not clear how much of a 'friendship' the King had with Savile, but Savile had plenty of friends. He was regarded as a prolific fundraiser for the various charities he worked for. I personally always thought he was a sleazeball but he was held in high esteem by many! KC didn't have a fucking crystal ball!

I don't know where you get that impression from. He's far from a twit. He's done good things with the Prince's Trust, far-sighted re the environment etc. Oh FFS, why am I even bothering? You're just filled with irrational hatred for someone you don't know, with no basis in fact.

The fact the KC is exempt from the law and can influence the legislative process is disgusting. I think it's awful that we have an unelected head of state.

I'd rather have a Monarch and a Prime Minister than a president. President Boris, anyone?!

You are also forgetting that the King (and his mother before him) knows more about international diplomatic relations than just about anyone else on the planet.

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But he doesn't say it like it is.

He misrepresents the truth and contradicts himself on a regular basis.

He lacks any credibility whatsoever.

For most people the outcome of repeatedly and publicly taking pot shots at your family would have been obvious.

I don't blame his family for distancing themselves when all he wants to do is to monetise any encounter whilst.

All he does is lob bombs at his family and then dupes people into being sympathetic when he's wounded by shrapnel of his own making.

Well if you think it's ok to betray your family and lie for money, then that says a lot about you. I don't.

The York princesses were never intended to be working royals although there was a time when Andrew wanted them to be.

Harry was always meant to be a working royal, and that is how he would have spent his life. Andrew wasn't "hanging about" either; he had duties and responsibilities, whatever we think of him now.

How do you know that "very few of his relatives actually work" or is that you just getting the boot in again?

Camilla has done excellent work in the field of VAWG. I wish she was brave enough to be more outspoken on the subject.

And I like that she hasn't got Ladies in Waiting, but Queen's Companions. And I like her clothes. But that's it.

I'm not sure that C & C not being "allowed" to marry is relevant if she wanted to marry APB.

Perhaps if he hadn't been a serial shagger & she had been happy her & Charles wouldn't have got together again?

I'm not sure if Charles being "too busy" to meet Harry is any worse an optic than Harry being "too busy" unless the meeting is tagged onto something else!

"Integrity" is a foreign country so far as Harry is concerned!! He's an outright liar for a start - out of his own mouth!!

It was an open secret for years what Savile was like and I just don't believe Charles didn't know too. This is a family whose children's school friends are vetted before they can associate with them.

You really believe that Harry and Meghan aren't after money?

Well I am filing you under "not my types" along with Savile.

If he did know, then he would have to be pretty bloody stupid to associate with him!

It may have been an 'open secret' in some circles, but I imagine it wasn't talked about. Savile was quite powerful back in the day.

Wealth is no shelter from an abusive/neglectful upbringing. It can take a long time for victims to recognise it for what it is and be ready to speak publicly about it.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

Nice. Categorising a poster you don't agree with alongside Savile; a 'person' who abused sick children in their hospital beds. Do you even recognise how offensive this statement is?

I see a big explainer article has been updated in the Daily Mail this evening about the "real reason" KC didn't meet Harry. God they are fast off the mark.

@Runnerinthenight didn't say it was ok to sell stories. But I think it's a forgivable offence especially with people you are supposed to love.

See I don't think much of a future was planned for Harry. KC had long expressed a preference to slim down the monarchy and with their good genes/lifestyles there was every reason to think that KC, W+K and their kids (when grown) would all be working at the same time.
As for working, I'm talking about jobs, skills, training. Very few of the extended RF have anything remotely resembling that in their lives, and that lack of structure/purpose is not good for a person.

My folks were friends with the chief psychiatrist at Broadmoor and his wife, and were often invited to various do’s at Broadmoor - including at least one where JS was present and my folks met him. My DM (always a hyper sensitive type) said from the word go that he gave her the absolute creeps - you’d think the chief psychiatrist might have picked up something, but the fact that he evidently didn’t makes me think that JS was extremely adept at projecting his desired image - as narcissists are known to do.

One of the justifications trotted out for the immense privilege of the RF is that they cannot be intimidated or bought, and are free to disinterestedly do the right thing. If they cannot even do that properly - if they are truly intimidated by individuals' power - then there truly is no point at all to them.

What a completely bizarre response.

Let me get this straight.

A poster finds they don't have anything in common with people that are overinvested in the royal family, a family that had known connections with Jimmy Saville.

And you are criticising them, presumably because you like the royal family, by comparing them to the individual that the royal family are known to have associated with?

I'm baffled.

don't care what happens to any very close friend of Jimmy Savile or his fucking offspring

I can understand not caring about Savile's friend, but not caring about the offspring of Savile's friend makes no sense - we don't control who our parents are friends with.

There are valid reasons not to care about William and Harry, but this isn't one of them.

Oh she does - she wants their titles!

Read the post I responded to, and then your apparent bafflement can cease.